Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread

No are you?

 

No, but your comment was obtuse. Just trying to figure out what you were saying. Sounded like you were supporting mom's decision to stock up on guns in light of concerns over gun control despite the fact that she had a mentally ill son in the house.

 

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up.

 

That is entirely untrue (generalization). The biggest issue that most people have is with the anti-gun crowd wanting to come in and make more laws to try to control a free people/state. Owning a gun is in the bill of rights whether you like it or not.

I own some guns; I do not have a gun fetish. But I like having the piece of mind there in case someone were to break into my house. Also I like to target shoot once in a while. The majority of gun owners pretty much resemble this from my experiences.

Edit, I will say that some people may have fetishes. But that goes for every damn thing in the world.

 

That is what MarAzul wants to mount on his boat...Sly makes a good hood ornament if you ask me

 

Contrary to popular belief, there are gun owners who are willing to discuss gun control...I like how pro gun folks assume the rest of us are unarmed and don't own the things. It's like being anti Republican and folks assume you're a liberal or Democrat. Interesting which segment of the discussion gets the angriest about it when anger is what caused the discussion in the first place

 

MarAzul should go on Pimp My Boat and get the full D. Miles experience.

 

I think your ability to put forth a reasonable, consistent, and coherent point of view goes a long way in my support for your gun rights even when I dont agree with you. Others Im not so sure about.

Gun grabbers become gun grabbers though, because they feel it is the only course of action to take, which it is not. Part of the problem is that gun nuts make it an all or nothing situation, where it feels like that is the course of action and then we are back at square one.

 

mags is posting Pagan rituals!!!!

 

Mags means business when he breaks out the Cornelius Planet of the Apes GIFs!

 

How many school shootings are from those without mental illness? Just curious...

 

I don't know, do you?

Also, are school shootings the only shootings that matter? They account for an incredibly small portion of gun related deaths in this country.

Using mental health issues to dodge gun control is ridiculous.

 

The majority of shootings are from suicides. Remember that mass shootings are any shooting that involves 2 or more people. I would guess a ton of "criminal mass shootings" involve gangs.

And from what I've read, all school shootings involve someone with mental illness. I think those that use guns with tragedy is ridiculous.

A 2001 study looked specifically at 34 adolescent mass murderers, all male. 70 percent were described as a loner. 61.5 percent had problems with substance abuse. 48 percent had preoccupations with weapons; 43.5 percent had been victims of bullying. Only 23 percent had a documented psychiatric history of any kind―which means three out of four did not.

People with serious mental illnesses, like schizophrenia, do have a slightly higher risk of committing violence than members of the general population. Yet most violence is not attributable to mental illness. Can you walk us through the numbers?

People with serious mental illness are three to four times more likely to be violent than those who aren't. But the vast majority of people with mental illness are not violent and never will be.

Most violence in society is caused by other things.

Even if we had a perfect mental health care system, that is not going to solve our gun violence problem. If we were able to magically cure schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and major depression, that would be wonderful, but overall violence would go down by only about four percent.

Federal law prohibits people who have been involuntarily committed to a mental institution from owning guns. Is that targeting the right people?