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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Yep. Everytime a gun nut shoots up a school, and all the other gun nuts scream "nothing to see here, move along", a few more people think "wait, that ain't right".

    It's a slow process, and no doubt a lot more schools will get shot up while we wait...

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    Nice hyperbole
     
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    "It's a slow process" is hyperbole?

    You don't actually know what hyperbole is, do you?

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    No this is hyperbole "Yep. Everytime a gun nut shoots up a school, and all the other gun nuts scream "nothing to see here, move along", a few more people think "wait, that"
     
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    Which part of that specifically do you think is hyperbole?

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    Jeeze... go camping for a couple days and a 29 page thread emerges.
     
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    The "nothing to see here"

    That isn't going on, especially with the recent tragedy.
     
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    "Stuff happens" -- Jeb Bush

    I'm too tired to go back and find a good Mags quote, but it seems to me you've been arguing that any discussion of gun control is "politicizing the tragedy".

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    It is, so I'll admit to that.

    I don't think "Jeb Bush" is anyone I claim can speak for gun rights advocation. I don't think he can really speak about anything for that matter
     
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    Which is the same as saying "nothing to see here".

    Either this school shooting doesn't matter, in which case we can just drop it and get on with our lives, or it matters and we should try to do something (not necessarily gun control) to prevent it from happening again.

    By complaining that Obama is 'politicizing' the matter, you are saying that it doesn't matter and isn't a worthy subject for national discussion.

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    No it doesn't. The tragedy is much more than gun control. We weren't talking about the pressure cooker when the Boston Marathon blew up as much as the tragic event that took place. Then it was directed toward the Muslim extremists. Funny how the media even talked about the people and group doing the horrific event but in this event you can politicize guns on an event where someone was pulling the trigger.
     
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    See, what you are actually meaning by "Obama is politicizing this" is just "Obama is saying something I disagree with".

    If you think there's a better solution than what Obama proposes, great! But in that case you are also guilty of "politicizing the issue".

    If you think we should stop looking for solutions, then you are saying "nothing to see here".

    There aren't any other options. Either you think we as a country should do something about this, or you think we shouldn't. Which is it?

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    No, Obama is politicizing this and his track record has warranted my statement. When the Boston marathon happened, Obama refused to call them "Islamic terrorists" and didn't once mention that terrorism is a problem in this country. He focused more on the victims and how we need to have more security in these large events.

    Then here we are with the latest tragic event and he spends 10-15% of his time talking about the victims, then uses the rest to politicize gun control. Oddly, he didn't talk about schools beefing up their security which is a total contradiction to his Boston Marathon soap box.

    I know you have your Obama blinders on, but anyone that's outside the box sees this agenda.
     
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    Politicize gun control? That doesn't even make sense. Gun control is inherently a political subject.

    I don't deny he has an agenda. Everyone does, including me and you. You are just jealous that his soapbox is so much taller than yours.

    I notice you didn't answer my question. Do you think we should do something/anything to stop this sort of thing from happening, or should we not do anything at all?

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    so is "Islamic Terrorism", which Obama will never speak of. He had no problem pushing that agenda aside to talk about security and the victims for most his speech.

    Maybe we should listen to Obama after the Boston marathon? He said beef up security to stop events like this to happen again.
     
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    So, how much more in taxes are you willing to pay to put trained, armed guards in every school? How much more in taxes are you willing to pay to put in metal detectors and other security devices?

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    Less than the tax to enforce nationwide legislation on gun control.
     
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    Does that really say what you meant to say?

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    It means exactly what it says.
     
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