Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

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  1. magnifier661

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    Funny that you mentioned that. I seriously think the establishment will try and off him
     
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    WTF do police have to do with mental health, other than most cops are mentally ill?
     
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    Okay, that's going back even before my time.
     
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    1960s?
     
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    "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.";

    -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald
     
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    He shot Christians in the head. That's who he targeted
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Oh okay, I thought he was fatally shooting everyone regardless of what they said.
     
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    Pretty sure you can talk about that freely. I think everyone would agree that someone who would shoot up a school is mentally ill.

    I don't care that it's not PC, but I do care that you assert it without presenting any data.

    Secondly, even if we assume that your assertion is true, how does that help us? Shall we lock up or exterminate all the members of whichever race you think is the problem?

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  11. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    But people don't really talk about it. The first thing they jump on is "gun control this" and "gun control that". Its the easy and wrong answer to the problem.



    Knock yourself out:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
    If you sort homicides by low to high, its generally asian countries, then anglo-saxon countries, then latin american countries.

    If my assertion holds true, then gun control is relatively useless and a waste of time. The differences are cultural and mental.
     
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    If your assertion is true (and I think anyone who thinks about it for a second will realize there are a lot more factors at play here than just race), that doesn't say anything at all about the efficacy or lack thereof of gun control.

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  13. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Race/ethnicity is probably the defining factor when it comes to looking at gun deaths in a country. Hell, if you look at this country I'm sure the different ethnic groups' homicide deaths per capita reflect worldwide stats by ethnicity.

    Sure, how sunny a country is probably plays a role. Gun Control too.
    The problem is cultural and culture stems from ethnicity.
     
  14. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Not sure how reliable this is, but I'm sure its not too far off:

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    Most news outlets show this:
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    When it actually should look like this:

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  15. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Where are the stats showing gun control is actually effective?

    Most people just say "oh, in Australia or England there are no deaths!". Yeah, both those countries are like 90% white, which are shown worldwide and even when looking at the US are pretty low.
     
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    Let's try to be somewhat realistic here.

    You can't round up 6,000,000 armed people unless they let you.

    You wouldn't even consider trying to.
     
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    Roseburg, Oregon is 90% white.

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  18. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Sure, and this is what is called an outlier.
     
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    Columbine, Colorado is 94% white. Newtown, CT is 95% white.

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  20. EL PRESIDENTE

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    These mass shootings are all outliers. Their effect on net gun homicide deaths in the country probably not even measurable. Psychologically, they are more damaging BECAUSE they happen in white communities, because its something that is very uncommon and is unexpected. They are carried out by mentally ill people, people who deviate from the normal behavior of those of their race/ethnicity, whereas most of the homicides from ethnic groups are cultural in nature and can be predicted, as shown by worldwide patterns and by the ethnic makeup of a community and their crime statistics.
     
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