Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread

So we can invalidate Roe vs Wade decision?

 

"The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights."

Maybe you breezed past this part?

 

Late to this party, but my other cave does not have phone or internet service.

Have not read the 39 pages of this conversation; hope I am not repeating info.

The link below is to an analysis of mass public shootings made by the Crime Prevention Research Center.

There are a couple of interesting points. The main point to consider, 92% of all mass public shootings from 2009 to 2014 occurred in GUN FREE ZONES. Page 10 is where the Gun Free Zone report starts.

You are much safer in a public place that has a lot of guns, ammunition and people that know how to shoot, such as in a Cabela's store, than in a gun free zone such as a school or workplace.

http://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/CPRC-Mass-Shooting-Analysis-Bloomberg2.pdf

 

In The UK, Guns Aren't The Problem, It's Knives. And The Number Of Attacks Are Surging
Matt Vespa | Jul 18, 2015

Gun ownership is an alien concept with our British cousins across the Atlantic, but that doesn’t mean that violent crime has been reduced. In fact, with no guns readily available, though there are gun crimes in the UK, knives seem to be the weapon of choice. This isn't surprising. The rise in knife attacks has been in the UK press since 2008–and they’ve increased by 13 percent since last year (via Sky News):

Knife crime has increased for the first time in many years, annual crime statistics have revealed.
The figures show there were 1,577 more knife assaults (up 13% from the previous year) and 1,000 more cases of knife possession (up 10%).
Overall, knife crime rose by 2% in the 12 months up to March this year, said the Office for National Statistics.
The ONS [Office for National Statistics] report also revealed that sex offences rose by 37% to the highest figure since 2003, but it suggested this was the result of victims being more willing to report such offences, improvements in police recording methods and a significant number of reported historic sex attacks.
The official figures for all crimes recorded by police show they went up by 3%, with a particular rise of 23% in violence against the person, but the ONS said that was purely because of changes in police recording methods.

In January, the Telegraph reported that violent crime, overall, rose by 16 percent. Yikes:
Violent crime recorded by the police soared by 16 per cent last year to nearly 700,000 offences, new figures show.
Data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) covering the 12 months to the end of September last year showed 699,800 recorded incidents of violence against the person compared with 604,100 offences in the previous 12 months.
The data also showed a new record level of rapes recorded by police in England and Wales.
There were 24,043 rapes in recorded crime figures for the year, a rise of 31 per cent on the previous 12 months and 81 per cent higher than a decade earlier.
The figure beat the 22,000 figures recorded in the previous quarter's data and suggests that continuing confidence in police and the courts is leading growing numbers of rape victims to come forward.
Even in 2008 and 2009, there were reports about the surge in knife crime. In fact, in 2008, the Daily Mail reported that there were 130,000 incidents that year, which averages out to be a knife assault every four minutes.

Concerning homicides in the UK, John Lott of the Crime Prevention Center noted that the rate spiked in Britain once the country ritually outlawed handguns in 1997.

It only began to drop when the UK added more police officers in 2003 and 2004.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/07/18/uk-knife-attacks-are-surging-n2026497

 

No need, as The Second Amendment clearly prevents them from ever being enacted.

 

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...icide_by_weapon_private_citizen_2009-2013.xls

 

Of Oregon's 78 murders that year (2013), 43 were by gun, 12 by knife or other cutting instrument, 18 by other weapons (bat, tool, rock,...) and 5 by hands, fists and feet.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u..._20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2013.xls

If you look at the states with high murder rates, and consider the ethnic makeup of those states, and consider 53% of all murders in 2013 were committed by blacks who are a mere 12% of the population, it's clear that guns are not what need to be controlled.

 

Ha! I think you will draw flies with this one Maris.

 

Who wants to take your rights away? No one has proposed that guns be banned. Obama believes that people have the rights for "protection, hunting, and sport" but that there should be background checks for people who purchase guns. No one wants to take away the right for people to own guns. We just want to make sure that people who shouldn't have guns don't have guns.

 

And what if a kid in the class gets his hands on the teacher's gun and starts killing everybody? And if the teacher has the gun locked in his or her desk, how will she have time to go get the gun before being shot herself. Teachers having guns would lead to more school shootings in my opinion.

 

Guns ARE the problem. They say "guns don't kill people. people kill people." But a crazy white kid with no gun can't kill 10 people in 2 minutes time. If the best he has to work with is a knife, MAYBE he can kill one guy by surprise?

 

You don't say! Well since we have background checks and the recent shooter passed those checks and the Chief keeps mentioning Australia, your assertion doesn't cover the implications.

 

Ha! Hell, you can't even post the same messages twice on the same page.

 

Anyone that can drive a car can kill more people in less time.

 

I wouldn't let you have a gun if you paid me.

 

By the way, I wouldn't let 90 percent of the people I know hae guns. Lucky for them I'm not in charge.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...venge-attacks-Christian-villages-Nigeria.html