Zombie Umm I think we're better than last year.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. rasheedfan2005

    rasheedfan2005 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2013
    Messages:
    8,543
    Likes Received:
    4,673
    Trophy Points:
    113
    wait, is that why sly wont answer my calls?
     
    SlyPokerDog and UKRAINEFAN like this.
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Sly is a dog... he doesn't have vocal chords.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  3. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2015
    Messages:
    3,806
    Likes Received:
    5,493
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Podunk suburbs
    This roster is better than last season’s roster, in the first quarter.

    Last season’s starters never tied up their shoes until midway through the second quarter. Then they played catch-up the rest of the game. They were very frustrating to watch.

    This season’s roster competes from the opening tip-off. They play hard every minute of every game. They are fun to watch.

    Having two or more players competing for every position, except starting PG, is paying off. It makes the players play harder the entire game, no matter what the score is.

    Now if we can settle CJ down a little so he stops trying to dribble the opponents head.
     
  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,820
    Likes Received:
    25,040
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    If WE'RE better than last year, think how much better the Kings must be...
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Adding Rondo made them worse.
     
  6. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    If we win 49 game
    How so? We basically destroyed the Kings in the first game, but benched Lillard and let them win. In the second game against the Kings, Dame didn't play either and we barely lost. With a full team, we are 4-0 right now. Easily.
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  7. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    What happened to Rondo? 5 years ago, he looked like the best PG in the NBA.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Makes a pretty big difference when you're playing with three future HOFers, eh?
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  9. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,048
    Likes Received:
    35,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I could tell rondo was bad back then. I have never liked him, not even for a second.
     
    BBert likes this.
  10. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    But he played his best basketball when KG was injured. And he played with a fire and hustle that no other PG was playing with. I don't think that was just because of his teammates.
     
    Paine Tablet likes this.
  11. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Bad?? He was unbelievable in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs.
     
  12. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
  13. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,048
    Likes Received:
    35,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He's the definition of other players made him (look) that good.

    What are his stats since he didn't have 3 hof's? That's his true mark, and the one I knew he was.
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Everyone was praising the Mavs last year for adding him and I was one of the few people who KNEW it was going to bust. He was horrible in that offense. He can't shoot at all. He was good at two things, distributing the ball and defending. He's not a scorer, so I have no idea why the Mavs thought he would work in that offense.
     
  15. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,655
    Likes Received:
    15,097
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree, Rondo was pretty damn good. Never a good outside shooter or free throw shooter but played great D, set up his teammates, and because he was lightning quick, attacked the basket with ease, especially when player left him to double the big 3

    Has he lost that extra quickness since the ACL surgey? If so then he lost his one big advantage over everyone, and now his weaknesses are more exposed.
     
    Orion Bailey and oldmangrouch like this.
  16. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    8,319
    Likes Received:
    1,885
    Trophy Points:
    113

    very nice evaluation.

    Have to say that I am not a fan of his game, but with all of the shooters we have here, dont you think he would fit in? Even if he has lost a step, a true pass first PG ala Bibby might be just what we need.
     
  17. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,902
    Likes Received:
    22,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Well his best stats were in the 2009 playoffs when KG didn't play. So there you go. Also, you don't nearly get 20/20/20 because of your teammates. Why didn't Mario Chalmers get numbers like that? He played with 3 HOFers.
     
    Orion Bailey and Tunchi like this.
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    The league has changed. A point guard can simply not be a pass-only player. If they're unable to hit an open jumper, they face the risk of being dropped and then forgotten. The current rules in the league favor quick players on the perimeter. I can only imagine what guys like Isiah Thomas would be like in the current NBA.
     
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,730
    Likes Received:
    55,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Because KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen are not LeBron or Wade. Both of those players are capable of running the offense. They needed Chalmers to shoot and play defense. He was not the primary ball handler on that team. Rondo was expected to get the ball to KG, Pierce, and Allen. He was the conduit. Chalmers was not.
     
  20. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,048
    Likes Received:
    35,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He averaged 20 points a game? and 20 rebounds? 20 assists I can see. 20 points and 20 rebounds? No.

    Bosh is not a hall of famer. lol. Lets just make that clear right now.

    KG, Pierce, Allen? Yes.

    Lebron? Yes. Wade? Yes. (Though I never found him to be that good, that's my IMO, but the consensus is yes). Bosh? No way in hell.

    Lets just agree to disagree. I do not feel Rondo is as good as his stats suggest he is. We all know Kevin Love is not as good as his stats, for example.
     

Share This Page