Game Thread Third GOP Debate / CNBC / WEDNESDAY 5PM PST

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I gave you the montages of unfair behavioral questioning. And as we already discussed, the DNC refuses to be hosted by Fox because they know the questions will be hard.

    There's also a reason why the democrats won't even go on Fox to interview with their commentators. Talk about pussies
     
  2. barfo

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    I think you are evading the question. What questions, specifically, do YOU think were unfair?

    I am beginning to think that you are just parroting the party line here and you haven't actually thought about whether the questions were in fact unfair/insulting and why.

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    But let's just review the transcripts shall we? http://time.com/4091301/republican-debate-transcript-cnbc-boulder/

    HARWOOD: And make Americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others.

    HARWOOD: Let’s be honest. Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? -- badgering

    HARWOOD: We’re at 60 seconds, but I gotta ask you, you talked about your tax plan. You say that it would not increase the deficit because you cut taxes $10 trillion in the economy would take off like…

    (CROSSTALK)

    HARWOOD: Hold on, hold on. The economy would take off like a rocket ship.

    TRUMP: Right. Dynamically.

    HARWOOD: I talked to economic advisers who have served presidents of both parties. They said that you have as chance of cutting taxes that much without increasing the deficit as you would of flying away from that podium by flapping your arms. -- badgering

    QUINTANILLA: You want to bring 70,000 pages to three?

    FIORINA: That’s right, three pages.

    QUINTANILLA: Is that using really small type? -- adding an opinion

    FIORINA: You know why three?

    QUINTANILLA: Is that using really small type? -- adding an opinion

    QUINTANILLA: Senator Cruz. Congressional Republicans, Democrats and the White House are about to strike a compromise that would raise the debt limit, prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets that fear of — another Washington-created crisis is on the way.

    Does your opposition to it show that you’re not the kind of problem-solver American voters want? -- Again, speaking for americans? See the slight?

    I'll add more
     
  4. magnifier661

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    QUINTANILLA: Does that not speak to your vetting process or judgment in any way. -- Again, infusing their commentary and opinion, which ironically was followed by loud boo's

    QUINTANILLA: Mr. Trump, you’ve said you have a special permit to carry a gun in New York.

    TRUMP: Yes.

    QUINTANILLA: After the Oregon mass shooting on October 1st, you said, “By the way, it was a gun-free zone. If you had a couple of teachers with guns, you would have been a hell of a lot better off.”

    TRUMP: Or somebody else. Right.

    QUINTANILLA: Would you feel more comfortable if your employees brought guns to work? -- This entire exchange, in which they told the candidates they are talking economics shows their lack of staying on topic and keeping to the policies on economics.

    HARWOOD: Governor Huckabee, you’ve written about the huge divide in values between middle America and the big coastal cities like New York and Los Angeles. As a preacher as well as a politician, you know that presidents need the moral authority to bring the entire country together.

    The leading Republican candidate, when you look at the average of national polls right now, is Donald Trump. When you look at him, do you see someone with the moral authority to unite the country?
     
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    Yes, let's do.



    That is not badgering. Insulting, probably yes. Of course, the answer to Harwood's question is actually "yes", but it is a rude question. Of course Trump himself is quite rude, so I'm not sure he can really complain about that.

    Again, not badgering. However, it is a statement and not a question.



    That's not an opinion, that's a question. It is a skeptical question, and an attempt to be humorous, but I don't see how it is insulting or unfair.


    The question does not attempt to speak for Americans, nor is it a slight. It's a reasonable question, and an opportunity to state why the candidate opposes the budget deal and how they would have done it better and/or how they are a great problem solver due to x, y, z experience. It's actually a softball question.

    Please do.

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  6. magnifier661

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    Oh give me a break. If any of those questions were asked to the democrats, they would be crying like the babies they are. It's really tiring of the double standard liberals put on republicans. It's actually pretty embarrassing really. I'll post the democrat debate and you will see the soft balls they toss their way
     
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    Yes, let's look at the democratic debate transcript:

    I fail to see how that's any less 'hostile', 'badgering', 'insulting', 'unfair' or what-have-you than the R debate.

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    How is that any less insulting than calling Trump's campaign a cartoon?

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    Absolutely not. The questions were pressing, but not insulting. As you saw, I didn't put those questions that were pressing on the CNBC debate. Some questions to Trump, Carly and Rubio were fair and tough questions.
     
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    Mrs. Clinton (very straight face) to whom were you telling the truth, Charles Woods (father of Tyrone Woods) or the Egyptian Ambassador as cause of the attack at Benghazi?

    Mrs. Clinton, have you apologized for lying to Mr. Woods?

    Mrs. Clinton, have you corrected the explanation you gave to Mrs Smith as to the cause of the attack that killed her son in Benghazi?

    Mrs. Clinton, when do you plan to apologize to the American people for spinning the yarn about the video causing the attack?

    Mrs. Clinton, did you request Navy support to stand by Benghazi after the initial attacks and the British decided to pull out?

    Why Not?

    Mrs. Clinton, do you know how many hours away the Destroyer base in Italy is from Benghazi? Assuming Flank speed.

    Mrs. Clinton, What was so urgent to require the US personnel to be in Benghazi after the British left because it was too dangerous?

    Mrs. Clinton, What would you do over if possible to prevent the blunder you allowed to go down in Benghazi?
     
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    Reading the later part of the transcripts for the democrat debate were all softballs.

    Just saw the GOP say that they had a contract from CNBC that all questions were about economical questions, yet they brought up gun laws, morality, and other social issues. That, in itself, is reason enough to suspend them.
     
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    Mags, mags, mags. There you go again.

    Let's leave aside that fact that Carson had just blatantly lied about his involvement with the company. Asking whether endorsing a very questionable company (multi-level marketing quackery) as a medical doctor says anything about his judgement is a completely reasonable question. The question does not 'infuse commentary and opinion'. It's a simple, straightforward question, one that he will surely be asked again if his campaign survives. The boos were not ironic.


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    Carson didn't lie about his involvement with the company. You are repeating lies about him.

    He was a paid spokesman, and had 4 engagements to do so in 11 years. Those engagements arranged by a speakers' bureau, not directly with the company.

    Hillary made $25M making similar speeches in the last year or so. She certainly has no particular relationship with many who paid her.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...605fbe-fb4d-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html
     
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    Sorry, no.

    If you've got a contract with someone (to endorse their products, in particular) then you have 'an involvement', at least according to plain English.

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    Here's the whole story, barfo.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...ntradicts-him-mannatech-question-a#.khy4pogJ0

    I saw Armstrong Williams on CNN yesterday. He said no such things.

    He said Carson agreed to do a show for PBS and that Mannatech later became a sponsor. Carson wasn't paid, and he didn't hawk any products. The show was done in Phoenix. The contract was with PBS or the production.

    And that Carson's "relationship" consisted of Mannatech hiring Carson to do 4 speeches over a 11 year period. Mannatech paid the speakers bureau which took a cut and paid Carson.
     
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    “Sometimes you get involved with people who have not the best of intentions,” Carson’s business manager, Armstrong Williams, told the National Review when the conservative outlet asked about the candidate’s relationship with Mannatech earlier this year. “They’re using him to publicize their website, to monetize it, get people to believe that this is endorsed by Dr. Carson. The facts don’t match the reality of what they’re promoting to their audience. These things have their own biology and a way of solving themselves. It’s not our job to go out and say that ‘Mannatech is a bad company, Mannatech exploited Dr. Carson.’ What we have to do is a better job in vetting these companies that approach. We get this all the time.”
     
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    I don't mind a few gotcha questions in a debate, and as Barfo points out, CNN did give the Democrat candidates a few of those. But the CNBC debate was billed as being about economics and the pinhead moderators are supposed to know that and ask questions and moderate the debate such that viewers can get a good idea of where the candidates stand on economic issues. Other than challenging Carson on his number on his flat tax proposal, does anyone really think that the debate achieved its objectives? It was a train wreck. The moderators were more interested in putting out cutesy questions trying to embarrass the candidates and get them to attack each other than in fostering a legitimate debate.
     
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    So... hmm.

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    uhm... there are videos of Carson endorsing the product. Hell, he endorsed it again at the debate. How you gonna (believably) deny that?

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