Game Thread Toronto at Rangers

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by cagedlion, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    The team has only lost 2 games. Thank Hank. He's in playoff form. Starting to feel for the first time that they will low ball Kreider next season, sign Yandle and then look to move Staal after next year. Pretty obvious that Skjei can fill Staal's role down the line. Never thought they would sign Yandle but they probably can do it now since it looks like Kreider will have a crap year. Kreider might not even sign long term if his year sucks. He might just do a one year deal looking to cash in off a big year next year.
     
  2. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Always be concerned about team's O......especially on the PP.
     
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    10th in the NHL offensively, tied for first in goals allowed per game. PP is 22nd (nothing new there) and the PK is 7th. I agree with you Chuck the negativity is deafening, tied for first early in the season but you'd think the Rangers were Columbus.
     
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    Man Id hate to see this place if we had to watch a team that was actually bad.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Out of control, but what can you do. Just smile and read the posts...:).
     
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    Dump I agree, we need to hang on to Yandle and find a way to get rid of Staal. I really like Staal but he just isn't the same player. Sather really dropped the ball signing Staal to that extension before pulling the trigger on Yandle. Sather said Yandle was a target for awhile, shame he couldn't put that together first. We could have then let Staal walk. Now we have to get him to drop his NTC, and I'm not sure I see him doing that unless it's to get all the Staal's together.

    A lot of time for this team to get better. I'm not worried about them losing a puck battle in October. They know what it takes.
     
  7. Greyvtrayn

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    I do find it funny reading the post happening during the games...it does seem like the Rangers are getting smoked most nights. I don't know that anyone on here thinks the Rangers are bad...more so just airing grievances on some of the players that have had slow starts that we were all expecting more from. Personally, I'm stoked about them this year...the fact that they have won 7 of 11 games with some key players basically being invisible on the ice and score sheet gives me confidence they can be a top team again this year.
    It's a brutally long regular season, there will be peaks and valleys (or strikes and gutters as one dude might say). If they can manage to get everyone clicking at the same time come April/May they are going to be a tough team to face in a 7-game series. I just realized they have 70 more games to play AFTER Tuesday night....guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
     
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    The Staal deal was a coin flip when they resigned him. Once they dealt for Yandle that became a bad move. If you go L/R on D that means Yandle or Staal are 3rd pair guys...which makes no sense for the amount of money they will be paid.

    Going to be very interesting to see if we can deal Staal after the season AND if he will accept a trade anyway.

    They are not perfect Grey...shocking to some in here...:).
     
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    Buch-nevich, Buch-nevich(whole board repeats with Chuck leading :) ) It would a big bonus if he comes over in April.
     
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    Maybe Staal gets dealt to the Canes to play with his bros.
     
  11. kreidertime

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    Watching the Giants it's amazing to me what a bunch of pusssies half the team is who sits out on a regular basis. Can't wait until they cut 10 of them in the off-season.
     
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    You actually have to give the Giants credit man...they come up with a new impossible way to lose just about every week. Not easy to pull that off.

    I will be so happy when the Reese Coughlin era ends this winter.
     
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    I think Staal's pedigree and the notion that his declining play was due to recovering from severe injuries led to the unfortunate resigning. Statistically Marc has been going downhill for years, now that he's locked up here and it's highly unlikely that he can be traded one can only hope for the best. I'm more concerned with that useless hump Dan Boyle, arguably one of the worst dmen in the NHL. Come on AV, give McIlrath a chance!
     
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    I think I am the only one on this board who doesn't have this hate for Boyle. Is he good...NO. Would I like an upgrade there...YES. But the dude is our 6th dman and he is a +3 (I know that stat doesn't mean a ton but he isn't killing us).

    I also don't see this McIlrath thing. This is VERY unfair of me to say, but from what I have seen of his play in the NHL thus far he looks like nothing special to me. Now AGAIN that is unfair of me to say based on the small sample size...and I also want to make this VERY clear, if I were the coach I would play Mac more over Boyle (at least 30% of the time) to see what I really have in Mac. So on the record I would play Mac more over Boyle.

    With that said, I really don't see this as an oh my god McIlrath is so good how could AV play Boyle over him kind of deal. I just don't. YES I would give Mac more PT, but I also don't think it is this crazy outrageous thing that Boyle is playing given what I have seen from Mac in small glimpses. But maybe if he played more he would show he is a good dman as he gets more PT and more comfortable playing a couple of games...it is possible.

    Overall I am just not a focus so much on the 6th dman kind of guy. Boyle has issues, but he hasn't killed us IMO. I am more focused on CK and Nash scoring some goals than our 6th dman.

    That's my take at least.
     
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    Boyle's play has been fine. However, the point is that McIlrath brings something to the team that it badly lacks. An enforcer who can hit a ton and play a quality shift on defense while enabling the team to have 4 scoring lines. Same thing I've said since they drafted.
     
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    McIlrath is in tomorrow, paired with Yandle.
     
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    I don't disagree dump...I would play McIlrath more to truly see what we have in him. My breakdown wouldn't be 11-1 Boyle over Mac. I would be worst case 8-4 at this point, and if McIlrath played well maybe even more for him.
     
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    The Rangers PP units today are (NYR):
    • Rick Nash, Derick Brassard, Mats Zuccarello, Ryan McDonagh, Derek Stepan
    • Chris Kreider, Kevin Hayes, Oscar Lindberg, Keith Yandle, Kevin Klein
    At Rangers practice today the team is using the following lines (NYR):
    • Rick Nash, Derick Brassard, Mats Zuccarello
    • Chris Kreider, Derek Stepan, Jesper Fast
    • Oscar Lindberg, Kevin Hayes, Viktor Stalberg
    • Jarret Stoll, Dominic Moore, JT Miller
    Emerson Etem is skating as an extra.

    Ryan McDonagh is skating with Dan Girardi, Marc Staal is with Kevin Klein and Keith Yandle is with Dylan McIlrath. (NYR)

    Dan Boyle is skating as an extra.
     
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    I like stalberg and what he brings but he should be on the 4th instead of jt Miller on the 4th line, we should be passed this already.

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  20. panzerporter

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    From what I've seen McIlrath has 5 professional games under his belt but I guess that's more than enough for an accurate talent determination. I'd prefer at least 20 more just to see if this 1st round 10th pick is worth keeping around or trading off, McIlrath would be a lot easier to move than Boyle or Staal. I certainly don't see him as godlike just want to see the Rangers move forward, there are other prospects waiting in the AHL AV needs to play him in games like tomorrow's against a physical team which Boyle is absolutely useless against. McIlrath has 2 SOG in one game to Boyle's 7 in 10 with 2A and a +3, not a huge offensive gap. I'm just asking for a chance to see the guy play, 1 game this year is no basis for an honest evaluation but similar treatment was given to other prospects in the past so perhaps this is just part of the process. There are few teams in the NHL that would have played a high draft pick so sparsely, that's what is frustrating about the way the Rangers develop youth, usually the only way for a young player to break into a regular lineup spot is via injury. I agree with dump about giving everyone on the defensive unit the occasional rest and that's where McIlrath can be worked in, there is little downside and AV already has his President's Trophy.
     

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