Per Murti on Hot Stove

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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Cashman is one of the worst GM's in sports. He refuses to rebuild. He collects old farts. He can't pull of good trades. How this assclown got a new contract is mind boggling. What the guy should do is trade McCann for everything he can get as far as young talent and go with the kid Sanchez. While he's at it, see what young talent Gardner can bring back before he is ancient and is worth nothing.
     
  2. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ^^^ I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gardner is traded...Beltran too...as well as others perhaps.

    ...but now that his money supply has been trimmed, he'll be forced to rely on his nonexistent shrewdness in order to get something of value in return...so I wouldn't count on it.
     
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  3. blgridesagain

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    Sanchez was 19 yrs old and had attitude issues, was struggling defensively when the Yanks signed McCann. And I believe "most" didn't have a problem with the McCann signing a couple of years ago.

    Sanchez could very well soon be traded in a package.....I would lean towards NOT trading him depending on the proposed deal, of course. Yanks do have another catcher (19 yr old) prospect in Torrens.
    Sanchez looks like the real thing as a hitting prospect - did well at AAA and is having a very good season in the AZ fall league.

    Could be the Yanks missed the boat with Sanchez by not trying to convert him to another position. He can hit, and with power.
    I wouldn't be eager to trade him but....just hope the Yanks get a good return if they do.
     
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  5. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...accountability.
     
  6. totus44

    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    Rick is citing "the plan" again? Rick I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you live in an alternate dimension where Cashman is a good GM. Which NYC do you see from where you are?

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  7. Rick2583

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    You lost me Tom, what post are you quoting?
     
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    totus44 Lord of the Dark Side

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    #10......

    Masterful sarcasm, BTW.
     
  9. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    You've probably forgotten more baseball than anyone on this board will ever know, you tell them.:notworthy2::headbang:
     
  10. blgridesagain

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    So what's it going to be?
    Where do we stand going forward with the team?
    Yanks made a big splash prior to the 2014 season by signing Ellsbury, McCann and Beltran.

    Ellsbury- too much money for too long. Fair enough?
    Maybe some of us agree he is a good established player/CF and fit in a position the Yanks needed to fill. Fair enough?
    In hindsight - the Yanks should've offered only 4-5 years at 15 or so mil?
    Then, IMO, he would've signed elsewhere. So be it.

    Don't recall what the general consensus was at the time regarding the contract, AND whether or not he was a sufficient addition to the team and CF. But I guess we could look it up if we had to.

    McCann- Pretty much same as above but I think I recall this signing being received fairly well by the board. I could be wrong.

    Beltran - we can file this deal under "not good- bad"
    Fair enough? There is one year left and maybe a future trade.
    If I recall, it was between he and Grandy.
    Yanks didn't want to go four years with Grandy and gave Beltran three yrs, both at 15 mil per.
    I didn't have a problem with them settling instead on Beltran based on him being a switch hitter to help balance out the lineup AND his previous two seasons with St Louis,
    24/84, .296/.339/.491
    32/97, .266/.346/.495
    He has 2016 left on his contract with the possibility of the Yanks trading him for other value. Grandy has two yrs (30 mil) left.
    As of now, RF looks wide open for 2017 and with the possibility of Judge and/or Heathcott taking over for 2016. Fair enough? Is this all "true"?

    Don't recall what the consensus was on this board at the time regarding these signings....(Ells,McCann,Beltran)....
    ....but nobody appreciates a Monday morn QB who sings a different song and takes potshots after the fact when things aren't going well.

    One last thing - just so we can get a better handle on "things" for now:
    There is a real possiblity in 2016 where the Yanks (pre-determined) can start anywhere from 4 to 6 young inexpensive players:
    Refsnyder, Bird, Gregorius, Heathcott (Judge? Williams?) and Murphy.
    Make it six when Severino pitches.
    All but one (Gregorius) of the players are homegrown while Gregorius was acquired by trading a minor league product.
    Not so bad.....is it?

    Maybe there are a couple/few things we can agree on.....?????
    ...maybe NOBODY is wrong all the time?
    ...maybe NOBODY is "right" all the time?
     
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    You don't trade Sanchez. That's a moron Cashman move. Get older. You trade McCann who is one step from being ancient. Given his RBI production and his position, you probably could get one, good, young, major league ready player for him. Or a couple guys ready with good upside. I'll give you a perfect place. Texas. Their catchers flat out suck. They might be able to get a really talented OF in Brinson. I think Texas will be in win now mode plus he is their third rated prospect. I think that deal can get done. Of course, Cashman is entirely too stupid to pull of deals like that.
     
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    I feel as if I've spoken to you before .....does this board breed clones?
     
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    Dump! on the Yankee board. I never thought I'd see the day.
     
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    It really pisses me off when all these no knowledge clowns disagree with a great baseball mind such as yours. Stand your ground, stay tough, I'm sure somewhere, someday, someone will actually understand you. You hang in there.
     
  15. blgridesagain

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    Very good, you made a funny, are you now ready to address a seemingly harmless post (#30)?
    Or do you REALLY feel it necessary to disagree, challenge, question, doubt or try and refute every single one of my posts?

    Grab a hold of your self. Jeez.

    I won't lose sleep over it either way, but at least the rest of the board or anyone else who is reading this thread can see what I already suspect.

    I don't need you to grovel or constantly pat me on the back.....and I understand you may not want to give in and volunteer anything which could hint at giving Cashman credit for anything or any move he may have gotten right..after all...you have to keep up appearances and remain in good stead with the circle of 99%ers, but can you at least stop insulting my intelligence?

    It's quite alright, the Republic will not fall.

    By the way, while you're still here, one question for you (and/or the board)....
    If the Yanks had won 91-92 games and lost the wildcard game to a team (Houston?) which won 86-88 games, would you still be singing the same song?

    Just wondering. Sorry, but I must end it with a "lol" as I nod my head.

    lol
     
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    You mean the same way that I asked you 3-4 times to explain the TWEAKS that you would make or like to see that you couldn't respond to.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...^^^ you won't get anything that resembles a coherent answer...if you get any response at all, it will probably be, well, you know.
     
  19. Rick2583

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    Yeah I know, a mini version of war & peace glorifying ALL of Cashman's past transactions making him sound like the second coming of Christ. Oh & of course that will be followed by his usual LOL.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Cashman is an f'n moron. In fact, the only intelligent things he has done in the past 5 years was trading for Eovaldi and Grigorius and not trading any of his young prospects this year. Other than that, he's been a complete tool. Let's face it, the team freakin sucks with a huge payroll. His Ellsbury, Beltran and Headley contracts were beyond moronic. If the imbecile had any brain cells left, he would eat 60% of Texiera's contract, get him out for one good prospect. go with with Bird full time.


    I see this board has some dumbasses like the A's board somewhere else does. They love Beane no matter how many times he screws up. Seems some Cashman ass kissers here are the same. Let's be realistic. Cashman is a complete jackass. He has no clue what he is doing.
     

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