Rangers vs Sens

Never ceases to amaze me how the morons on this board start bending over for a player when he makes one play like a shoot-out goal goal. Gimme a break. McIlrath played his best game as a Ranger and AV decided to put him on the bench for the next three. That's poor coaching. Fact. Nothing more than stupidity from a coach who showed last year that he makes poor decisions with old farts out of loyalty. He did the same thing with Glass. Hopefully, Gorton trades Boyle so AV can stop his moronic decisions. This soft defense got the crap kicked out of it in the playoffs. When it was over, 4 of the assclowns on the defense needed surgery. How quickly people forget that the series win vs. Washington, a big, physical team was dumb luck. If Holtby didn't whiff on a long wrist shot by Kreider, they lose in 5 games.

 

If our best player, the highest paid player didnt do this or that...if the injuries ..id rhe other teams goalie only did this...if if if if..there are a lot more things to sports than a box score

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I wholeheartedly agreed on the Glass stupidity Dump but i still refuse to believe McIlrath would be making any difference against those better teams keeping pressure on. Or in general really. Just don't see it long term with guy. And just because he may be the best rh D in the system dosen't necessarily mean he's a solid pro prospect.

 

Purcell is someone id like to see them pursue when his salary dips to around 2m later this year.

 

Trading our only legit, physical defenseman on defense and the organizations only young, right handed defenseman in the organization is insanity. Especially when old fart Boyle is basically done. McIlrath's last game was far better than any game Boyle has played this year. AV is doing the same thing with McIlrath that he did with Lindberg last year. Screwing him over for an inferior talent at this point. That's just dumb. Period.

 

I think it is funny to say Boyle sucks compared to McIlrath. BUT I also think the whole let's have post after post in thread after thread complaining about our 6th dman is just as funny.

With that said maybe that is the biggest compliment we can pay the team. We all know you guys will find something to complain about, so if all we can find is our 6th dman I take that as a positive and say we must be doing pretty well as a team.

Even though I 100% would be playing McIlrath way more than AV has, I am not going to lose sleep over the 6th dman, especially on a 13-2-2 team...LOL.

 

I also think there is NO COMPARISON AT ALL between Boyle and Glass...NONE. We all saw how awful Glass was and how much he hurt us when he played. We saw it with our eyes AND the numbers showed it. Boyle is nowhere near Glass level, not even close.

So let's not go down a road where we compare Glass and Boyle...not even close.

 

Unless you're stupid, the comparison of Boyle to Glass is 100% on the money. One, both players were taking up a roster spot from a superior talent. Two, both Boyle and Glass brought nothing to the team. Boyle's only strength was his offense and offensively, he's a non factor. He isn't good defensively. He can't clear the crease. He doesn't hit. He doesn't win battles in the corner. He does nothing. Exactly like Glass.

Boyle was brought here for one and only one reason. His offense and PP skills. Right now, he is 6th out of 6 defenseman in points. In other words, exactly like Glass last year, he brings NOTHING to the team. Is he better than what many other teams use as a 6th defenseman. Yep. Is he better for this team than McIlrath? Not in a million years. I tried to tell some on this board last year who downplayed a 4th line wing. You CAN NOT HAVE A WEAK LINK ON A STANLEY CUP WINNING TEAM. Get a clue.

 

I wouldn't say Boyle is a weak link, id just say his skill set is redundant and no longer needed now that Yandle is here. We could add a different dimension to the blue line by playing a guy like McIlrath.

I also wouldn't say he's bad defensively either, he's a guy who looks to carry the puck and defenseman like that will always have moments where they're exposed.

Playing Glass made the team actively worse. I posted a thread this time last year saying the fourth line has become non-existent and it would be a problem going forward. Boyle doesn't cause those kinds of problems where benching him would be addition by subtraction. But I would like to see a guy like Mcilrath who can bring a little more toughness to a mostly finesse d core.

 

As usual well written like an adult dump....LOL.

Of course you are right Prod and we agree 100%. There is no comparison to the level of suck and killing the team that was/is Glass to what Boyle is now...not even close. BUT if dump continues to call people stupid and act as if everyone is clueless except for him maybe it will become true....

You cannot have a weak link on a SC winning team...but the Hawks essentially played with 4 dmen last season as they won the cup...LOL.

As a 6th dman Boyle is fine. He is NOWHERE near what Glass was last season. And I say that even while saying I would be playing McIlrath more than AV has as you said as well Prod.

 

Boyle has caused huge problems when he plays against bigger teams. He gets pinned in constantly. Now to be fair, McIlrath played against 2 big teams in Winnipeg and Washington. I pointed out in that craps game, there were basically no runs other than one by Ovie taken on any Rangers player. Problem in that game was Staal, Girardi and McDonagh were atrocious and got man handled in their own zone. Everybody knows hockey is 2 seasons. While this defense is very good in the first two runs, it is obvious it runs out of gas and is physically beaten up when it gets to the third rounds of these playoffs. AV needs to change that. If the guy had any brains, this great start is the best thing that could happen to his team. He can start resting all kinds of defenseman and play McIlrath. Girardi should be given days off along with Staal, McDonagh, Klein and Boyle. Yandle is the only guy playing for a contract.

 

When your brain works like an adult Chuck, I'll treat you like one. When you make moronic points that are stupid, I'll tell you that you are a moron. Boyle brings nothing to this team. Just like Glass last year. It can't be disputed. He was brought here for only one reason. His offense on the PP. His offense sucks beyond belief this year. Therefore, he brings NOTHING to the team.

 

Now there I agree with you dump. I would also rest some of our dmen as the season moves on...especially Staal and Girardi. My hope is as we get into the dog days of winter and towards the middle of the season, AV will do this.

Staal and G do not need to play 80 games each. They can both play 72-75 games each +/- and we'll be perfectly fine.

Hopefully AV will see it the same way as the season moves along, especially if we continue to win and rack up the points over the next few weeks.

 

So Prod and I are moronic and our brains don't work like adults I guess dump because we are saying the EXACT SAME THING...LOL.

You continue to be a child dump and we'll continue to be amused by your rants. But I again say please don't stop doing what you do...I enjoy reading your posts.

You go man...

 

Here is one very simple stat to prove the point that Boyle is nothing like Glass.

Last year the Rangers had the best goal differential in the NHL at +60. Next was TB at +51. Then STL at +47. So a real comfortable edge for us in that metric.

Last year Fast was a -1. NO OTHER PLAYER on the whole team that played more than 14 games was a - on the team...Sheppard was a -1 in 14 games and after that no player who played more than 7 games was a -...and overall we had 5 players at -1 and Malone was a -4 in 6 games.

MEANWHILE Glass was a -12....yes a -12 when no other even semi-regular player was a - ON THE WHOLE TEAM outside of Fast at -1. -12 on a team that was +60 in goal differential overall...

This year so far Boyle is a +6, right in the middle of the pack on the team.

AGAIN...NO COMPARISON between Glass and Boyle.

Now your comeback will be +/- means nothing and is a useless stat, and guess what I don't love it either, but this isn't a little difference where a few players were a - in the same area, this is a HUGE standout difference where one awful player Glass was by himself by a mile. Meanwhile Boyle is right in the middle. Not killing us and not really helping us.

No matter how you try dump, Glass and Boyle simply are not comparable with regards to how much they are hurting the team.

 

Bringing nothing to the team is different than being an active liability and bringing down the players around him, as Glass did.

I haven't looked at these stats but based on the eye test id say Boyle offensive zone starts are way down compared to before we got Yandle. He's also no longer the go-to guy on the power play. He's not going to get the minutes anymore to get in a rhythm (and he shouldn't). Much different, in my opinion, than going out there and stinking up the joint like Glass who could have played without a damn stick and been no worse off.

 

Even now i still think the 4th line could use an upgrade as Moore, while still a good player is not really suited to play W.

 

^^^^^complaining is contagious. Just got off the TSN
Hockey site.......cannot stop laughing. Montreal fans
are going beserk after Colorado thrashed Les Canadiens
on their home ice 6-1. (Wish it were the Rangers doing
the bashing at Montreal!) Too funny.

 

No, it's not stupid because the NHL is 2 seasons. Once again, the Rangers should have lost in 5 to the Craps in the second round if not for one mistake by their goalie. This soft defense is not built for the post season against big teams or later rounds. McIlrath will go a long way into changing that.