Paris Shootings and Bombings

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  1. Spud147

    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    It doesn't look like very many people heard about this:

    http://mic.com/articles/128551/terr...anon-kills-43-and-injures-hundreds#.iExu0GAqm
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    What bothered me even more, when I read the article, was that I'd never heard about the attack in Turkey either. We're not getting the whole story.
     
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    Not "bad", but certainly different from American culture in many important respects. Some of the findings of a Pew research study are pretty eye-opening:

    http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

    - Sharia law
    - Religion and the State:

    - Support for suicide bombings, at least some of the time to protect Islam:


    - Morals

    - Violence

    So, I guess if you're using support of suicide bombings as a measure of "bad", something like 1 to 7 percent would qualify. That doesn't necessarily mean that they'd do it themselves, but it certainly doesn't mean they wouldn't given the right circumstances. The problem, of course, is that the Paris attacks were carried out by only a half dozen people.

    All of this isn't to say that I'm adamantly opposed to accepting some of the refugees from Syria; just that we'd better be damned careful how we go about it and we'd better also be willing to accept that no vetting process is going to be 100 percent effective.
     
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    Man, these radical #BLM, not saying it's the entire group, are a complete joke.

    http://www.weaselzippers.us/239910-...tion-is-on-paris-because-its-a-white-tragedy/

    #BlackLivesMatter Supporters Start #FuckParis Hashtag, Say Attention Is On Paris Because It’s A ‘White Tragedy’
    The avatar is of Sandra Bland, claiming she was killed by police before her mugshot was taken.
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    Sandra Bland committed suicide and had been upset that neither her family or fellow activists would reach into their wallets and bail her out of jail, according to the person who was in the cell near her.

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    And yesterday, they actually claimed people are ignoring the crazy student lunatics at Mizzou and paying attention to Paris, because the Paris is a ‘white’ tragedy.
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    They missed the many non-white victims of the Paris attacks,including black people, not that they care, since all they really care about is just themselves.
     
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    thanks for keeping the conversation sane.
     
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    It isn't the Black Lives Matter general. It's just another dumb fuck group that piggy back real issues to put attention on them
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Rofl lock that family up...They may not be terrorists, but they are FUCKING CRAZY to think that shit...
     
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    A viewpoint from Australia.

     
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    Maybe there's no connection, and I'm an idiot, if so forgive me. But it's amusing to me that we should do nothing to limit the availability of guns, because we're never going to stop mass shootings from happening by limiting guns, so really, why bother doing anything at all. Guns for all!

    While at the same time, and it seems to me, the very same people(not in this message board, generically speaking) say we should shut our borders from Syrian refugees because maybe one of the 10,000 could potentially maybe possibly be or become a terrorist, and if we can make one large sweeping act to potentially down the road theoretically save lives from an attack, than doing so is well worth it.

    We know we can't stop shootings. If a criminal wants a gun, they'll get it. We know that we can't stop terrorist attacks. If an individual wants to incite terror, they'll do it. Why then are drastic measures ok on one end, then?

    Granted in doing so we put those refugee lives in danger, and there's also the fact that this is exactly what ISIS would likely want, as, if they stay in worn torn hell, they're much more likely to actually become a terrorist than if they had a chance at living in the US or elsewhere.

    I won't bother to get into only allowing in Christians, that sort of opinion is just disgusting to me.

    But I imagine in much the same way that we equate those individuals fighting against gay rights to those fighting against the civil rights movement, we'll look back, hopefully, at these individuals who want to oppose giving safe haven to refuges the same way many in the US opposed helping the jews leave Europe during World War II.
     
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    I'm fine with taking in refugees. The Christians ought to act like Christians and show them charity.
     
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    I will welcome any Syrian Blazer fan who wants to join this forum!
     
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    Baloney! We should act like a prudent people. War has been declared on our people by people that believe in Jihad. Jihad is an Islamic construct and the people that fight for the Jihad are almost entirely Muslims with perhaps a very few recent converts. Under the current circumstances, bringing in several hundred thousand muslims from anywhere is less than prudent. More like shear stupidity. The Police in Paris are having a gun fight as I type, in the Muslim neighborhoods the French have allowed to be formed. Now they pay the price.
    Obama is insane for even suggesting this, but I fear that isn't quite right either, more like it is like a plan coming together. His plan.
     

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