Terror attacks in Paris

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  1. yankeesince59

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    ...fwiw, I'd like to be able to peer into the not so distant future and find out whether we finally solve our petty differences and figure out how to live as one human race, without the perceived need for religion, money, or borders...OR we eventually nuke each other into oblivion, which is probably the more likely scenario.
     
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    I read recently (I forget where) that a poll was taking asking "Do you think the world would be better off if there was only one religion?" & FWIW: 78% polled said yes.
     
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    ...^^^doesn't surprise me. The problem with a poll like that is that the ones who voted yes are essentially admitting religious beliefs are at the core of much of this world's problems....but if you ask those same people if the would consider converting to a different religion, most would probably say no...therein lies the problem,
    ...still don't see the need for any religion...personally, I don't have the need to blindly follow someone else's "road map" for life.
     
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    The "French" are good tough compassionate people....they were willing to charge and fight and lose MILLIONS of young men in the face of horrendous modern warfare (ww1)....Verdun..ect. They had military commanders feeling disgrace and guilt over "defeat" actually committing suicide right up to Dien Bien Phu ....(with help from the usual culprit China) 10K or so French soldiers were eventually overcome by an enemy force of least twice the size after more then 50 days.

    Same as the U.S. involvement in Vietnam where if WASNT conducted with ALL the military might and dedication as was used in WW2!
    Typical case of a shithole "country" (culture/communist/intolerant Islam) benefiting and laughing at the West's lack of resolve and "dedication" to WINNING a "war".

    The European nations and America are too busy trying to be "nice" and have a serious problem bendkng over backwards to be "compassionate", and continuously allowing steady immigration from those who have clashing religious and cultural beliefs. Today we have the perfect "storm" and opportunity for western Judeo Christian Nations to stand their ground,and tell those Muslim Nations to take care of THEIR problems and "welcome" the large vast majority of these "refugees" into THEIR homelands...including and especially Saudi Arabia and Iran....let them eat each other and use recources with Europe and America CLOSING their borders.

    "Historians" and "archeologists" hundreds of years from now will come to the conclusion that modern free industrial nations (Europe,America) allowed themselves to be swallowed up while the Arab and Asian Nations sat by and fiddled to the music rolling their eyes.
     
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    Time for this chicken shit to resign........

     
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    Why? Ron the answer is quite simple. Humans are mamals first, and evolution dictates that the most fit survive. Religion, society, etc these are artificial constructs. Peace is a fools concept. We've doubled the population over the last 40 years, the herd needs to be culled. And sorry but these sand nixxers just fucking volunteered to go.

    There is no one human race....even now homo sapiens are evolving to the next species. The 0.1% DNA difference is enough for selection pressure to drive the process. Me...I think the Anglo gene complex has the best shot if we have the balls to take it. Time will tell.
     
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    ^^^


    Why? Ron the answer is quite simple. Humans are mamals first, and evolution dictates that the most fit survive. Religion, society, etc these are artificial constructs. Peace is a fools concept. We've doubled the population over the last 40 years, the herd needs to be culled. And sorry but these sand nixxers just fucking volunteered to go.


    ^^^That's your answer?.......Tote, the "survival of the fittest" mentality is woefully outdated...and this is not evolution we're talking about. And your solution is to "nuke Mecca"?...seriously? That's the kind of horse and buggy thinking that has this world in the shit sack it's in now. And "Peace is a fool's concept"?...that has to be the silliest and most inane thing I've heard in a long time...without even realizing it, you've managed to prove my point.

    There is no one human race....even now homo sapiens are evolving to the next species. The 0.1% DNA difference is enough for selection pressure to drive the process. Me...I think the Anglo gene complex has the best shot if we have the balls to take it. Time will tell.

    ^^^...sorry, but evolution also includes ideologies and common sense and what you are pointing to as a solution is idiocy...if you try to eliminate a region in the manner you are speaking of will only serve to eventually breed a new batch of the same terrorists a generation from now who will be avenging the slaughter of their ancestors ...sorry Tote, but you're better than this.
     
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    The world targeting your 60s mentality for deselection as well. If its any comfort, I'll be the guy yo shoot you in the head. You're time has come and gone my friend.
     
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    ...wow, not sure what your problem is today but whatever... when confronted with a conundrum for which you have no tangible answer, you resort to something as disturbing and misguided as this ?

    ...when you're faced with the the terrorist situation, your only solution is to "nuke Mecca" as if there won't be serious repercussions for doing such a mindless act... and then when cornered, and respectfully asked "why" the situation even exists in the first place, your response is to offer to "shoot me in the head"...very nice.

    ...according to you, "peace is a fool's concept" so I can only assume that you believe that war is somehow a wise man's concept and is the perfect solution for a new world order.?





    ...sorry Tote, but your step forward for all of mankind is actually a step backwards ("horse and buggy thinking")...Like I said, you're better than this.
     
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    Did only ISIS/ISIL respond to that poll???
     
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    Funny you mentioned the '60s......For all of the mean nasty talk directed at the elders, parents and "establishment" by the young "activists", college protesters and dissillusioned of that time......the elders, parents and "regular middle age working stiffs" were QUITE tolerant and understanding and more often (more or less) than not would just shake their heads, shrug their shoulders and chalk it up to typical teenager/young people gripes.

    Only with the "new thing" of flag burning, and when the Vietnam Vets returning home were cursed and spit on did the older generation raise their voices and confront the hippies and protesters....otherwise the "older people" and parents of that time were MUCH MORE (from my view) tolerant of "different" behavior, dress, and speech than many of the college campuses today treat conservative ideas and speech.
     
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    ...one would think so, Matts.
     
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    No way is "Peace a Fool's concept".....

    Tom, what is your Meyers Briggs type, if you don't mind???

    One might say Peace is an Altruist concept.

    Myself, Meyers Briggs test confirmed as an ENFJ type, My own MB conclusion of personality types, the same (ENFJ). Such are in fact Altruist, and I fit the bill, no doubting MB testing.....

    I've built Nuclear Launch Platforms, from B2's to Guided Target Systems, Air to Ground Surveillance, Battle Management Systems, and am considered a War Hawk by most. Yet, I'm actually an Altruist at heart ..........and I do believe in Peace.....

    the 60s were not responsible to a philosophy of peace-niks, those young people then, simply borrowed previous American Sentiments common to any and all wars, going way back to the Revolution.

    Sure there will always be antagonist to Peace on this Earth, and has been since the beginning of time. What does War really solve peacefully? The Force distinguishing those deemed 'evil', or un-sportsman-like crazed dictators, eg N. Korean, Iran, and all Islamic Terror Organizations..........yes, force unfortunately is required, for our own safe keeping of our way of freedom and life in general. There will always be war. The Middle East is and has always been an Eternal War, one we should of stayed out of a helluva long time ago. But then, when antagonized, our Nation as the Lion must pounce on its prey. The very prey who took down our WTC. Sure we must be armed to the hilts, with the technologies no other nation has.

    Can a War Hawk accept Peace, hell yes.

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    Have a Peaceful time in the land of no war, Peace be with you and yours, I wish you a great time. BTW- from those who I've known to spend time in Switzerland, all said, we lived on Cheeses, great breads, and a helluva lot of chocolate. Meat is not cheap, fine dining through the roof. If you got it and I'm sure you do, smoke 'em if you got 'em.......
     
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    Most Presidents are in fact ENTJ's.....

    just grease-balling........
     
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    Maybe, perhaps because those islamo-fascist countries/cultures stifle true freedom and aren't conducive to creating opportunity and welcoming free speech and are breeding grounds for hostile angry young men who are easily flipped living in where there is one (very) predominant religion being practiced with fervor?
     
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    ENTJ with some ENTP tendencies.

    Look....I'm mammal, homo sapiens, anglo-saxon, Tom. People forgot their place. Social constructs and conditionings of several thousand years will never beat out millions of years of evolution. Pick any of the 10 commandments and see that there are instances where anyone can break/redefine/nuance around these basic social compacts. Peace is not a natural concept. Its an aspiration. Its a passive approach to survival, where fitness to designed to be determined by action (not omission). Conflict exists on the planet among humans every day throughout this planet since recorded history. War is our natural state. Denial of this reality is not logical. Elimination of rivals assures propagation of ones gene pool. Rarely has the opposition been so recognizable. Like the Nazis, radical Islam is an enemy of clear intent. Not all Germans were Nazis, yet Germany had to be defeated because by omission of action they were complicit. Same with Muslims.

    That won't be the last human conflict. It will continue until populations are greatly reduced. These are natural cycles when you look at history. Were overdue.
     
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    ...^^^here we go again...so lemme get this straight, " Peace is not a natural concept"......therefore, War is a natural concept ?

    ...and of course conflicts have "existed on the planet among humans every day throughout this planet since recorded history"...no one is debating that fact but I'll try to ask the simple question again,..."WHY"?...has it been for any reason other than sheer greed or religious differences ?

    ...there's nothing "natural" about it.
     
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    imo, survival is the one basic instinct.
    And for every action, there is a reaction.
    Overpopulation could ultimately be the trigger which causes mass world wide "conflict".
    Over consumption of natural resources and fresh water will lead to
    populations battling for survival......and today we have ALOT of cultures with millions and millions of people with huge birth rates in "countries and they find they have to survive in hunger/poverty and look to expand/immigrate/flee/invade and prosper (WITH THE HELP OF THE HOST COUNTRY, lol)...or just maybe finally thinking about conquering "other lands". The math is not good for Europe and ultimately America.....not good.
     
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