Notice Yankee trade talks

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  1. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    Yeah, because its ALWAYS about him.
     
  2. Lillie

    Lillie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys for the explanations, I get it now. lol
     
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    The New York Daily News reports that the Yankees and Cubs have discussed a swap of Brett Gardner and Starlin Castro as per Mark Feinsand.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ^^^loling @ "the plan".
     
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    Lil? Just curious, did you read my "explanation"?
     
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    Loling...@" The Plan"....gufaw gufaw....hee haw....

    Gardner for Castro?
    After watching the clown the Cubs had in LF (defense) during
    the NLCS, I would also be interested in Gardner.....and Castro (25) could solve the Yanks 2b issue for the next few years......"loling"......hee haw hee haw......Casro's contract?➡ Yanks will be dropping Gardner's salary, and HOW MUCH more after 2016/2017?......"loling"......hee haw....hee haw.....
    Um, Lil?....paying attention to any of this? This is a good example of some of the things I touched on in my "explanation" regarding The Plan and this Board.
    It's a good time to poll the board regarding this trade rumor.
    I would do it if I were the Yanks for reasons listed- age, team need, manageable with current and future payroll.

    Step right up. Rick? Waddya think about "the trade" Yes/No?
     
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    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    LOL Really? My answer would be a no.

    Solving 2B? The guy has played a grand total of 38 career games at 2B & not very well & his main position SS has been no picnic either. Last year he had 18 errors in only 109 games. So no to Mr. hands of stone. Younger & less money yes but all things considered I think we can be more practical then SS/2B men that we really don't need. OH..............LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL.
     
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    Figures
     
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    Thanks Rick.
    You're right again.:tiphat:
     
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    ...^^^ this is some of the funniest shit I've read in awhile. So acquiring then moving a SS with poor defense to 2B is the answer and is part of Cashman's "plan"?

    ...getting younger at the expense of getting weaker is not a plan...and since when did money become a problem for the Yanx...are we really expected to believe that the reason Gardner is being shopped is to jettison his contract?...lmao...if that were the case, the Yanx would be shopping Ellsbury instead of Gardner.



    ...here's an idea, if Gardner is to be traded, why not trade him for a player that can actually make an impact?...like maybe a solid RHed bat?
     
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    getting younger at the expense of getting weaker is not a plan...and since when did money become a problem for the Yanx...are we really expected to believe that the reason Gardner is being shopped is to jettison his contract?...lmao...if that were the case, the Yanx would be shopping Ellsbury instead of Gardner.



    ...here's an idea, if Gardner is to be traded, why not tradehim for a player that can actually make an impact?...like maybe a solid RHed bat?
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    I hear ya- but in Ellsbury's case I think his contract is an obstacle, personally speaking, I think he is a better player than Gardy and although Ells appears to be one of those guys who gets "injured" I would kinda accept it if we can get 145? games out of him.
    Agree Yanks need a solid RH bat and money isnt a "problem", but I actually do believe they won't give out any huge longer term contracts for the time being unless the player is in his mid 20s?....especially to pitchers.
    Speaking of pitchers- Wein-Yin Chen is a good LHSP who is effective vs LHB a nice thing to have at Yankee Stadium.
    He's looking for 5 years (75 mil?), he'll be 31 in July which will bring him to age 35 - and it will cost the Yanks a draft pick.

    What's your opinion on Chen?
     
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    With CC situation up in the air we need a solid lefty starter, I'd be okay with Chen. But not for those years or that salary. He only earned 4.75M this past season so if I'm the Yankees I'm offering 4 years at $40M TOPS!
     
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    ...lol...it's been rumored that the "plan" is to get younger and cut payroll...so with that in mind, we trade Gardner then turn around and sign a 30+ year old Chen to a multi year deal worth even more than Gardner's, AND forfeit a draft pick?

    ...wow, I have no words.
     
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    I don't think the "market" for Chen is 10 mil per season, it's higher and there wont be ANY team eventually signing him for 10 mil per, imo. Regardless of last year's salary, his free agent market value will be based on performance.
    He's been healthy, averaged 188 IP, 3.44 ERA past two seasons/ 3.72 career ERA pitching at Camden Yards.

    I would go four (not five) years with him.....and I'm not thrilled at losing a draft choice. Yanks do need a good solid LHSP who is effective vs LH batters to balance the rotation and offset the porch at Yankee Stadium vs opposing LHB.
    Very important - unless the Yanks have at least 2-3 outstanding RHP in their rotation, and they do not, it would be a very good "idea" to have a "good" LHSP
     
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    You have "no words"?
    Then lets contribute some words and help things along.

    1) when we talk about any rumors or actual signings of free agents we should imo at least take into consideration how much money the Yanks WILL be dropping from their payroll after 2016 and 2017.....this also applies to possible trades.

    2) and of course consider how much money they will (possibly) add going forward from 2016.

    3) Nothing has actually been DONE yet

    4) if the Yanks do want to get younger, are they supposed have 25 year olds at most positions? lol

    5) it is still a very real possibility that 3-4 positions will be filled by farm system products no later than 2017.
    RF Judge, 1b Bird, 2b Refsnyder, C Sanchez (back-up for NOW)

    6) if Gardner DOES get traded for help in another area, Aaron Hick 26 yrs old becomes the LF.....the GM has already said he believes Hicks is an " everyday" player.
    Gardy gets traded = Yanks get younger (Hicks LF)
    gee, that was easy to figure out.

    Of course IF Gardy gets traded, we do have to see what the Yanks get in return.....and I just don't think IMHO it will be for an older player. lol
    We shall see.

    7) you mentioned Wien-Yin Chen.
    ➡ See #3
     
  17. Lillie

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    Yes I read all the comments. If you are asking me if I have an opinion on the subject the answer is no. I just report any news I hear and let you guys argue. :bgrin:
     
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    Well said lil. LOL
     
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    ...unfuckingbelievable wholesale contradictions.
     
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    Thank you Sir.
     
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