Official Kreider has nothing in the toolbox thread

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by kreidertime, Nov 28, 2015.

Moderators: 1

Moderators

  1. NYR31
Page 1 of 3
  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2014
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    where posters can express their frustration on how stupid Chris Kreider is when it comes to using his all world talent.
     
    kreidertime, Nov 28, 2015
    #1
  2. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,794
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Low hockey IQ, combined with inconsistent effort, combined with an inaccurate shot. Not a good mix.

    Now when he is on and plays a game with that A effort and does his thing down low the guy can be a stud, the downside is it happens way too infrequently and only serves to tease you about what he can be.

    He is the guy I am most frustrated with on the whole team...BY FAR. Staal is what he is. But CK has a load of talent yet doesn't bring it all the time and is invisible WAY too often. That is so darn frustrating.

    He is due for a good game/games soon, but they will come and go and this Kreider will be back soon enough. What he does.
     
    chuckd3534, Nov 28, 2015
    #2
  3. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    17,371
    Likes Received:
    4,170
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Freehold, NJ
    I've seen the story enough times. He is what he is. Most of the time he could be scratched and you would never know it. He adds nothing at all.
     
    Messiah717, Nov 28, 2015
    #3
  4. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2014
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've been back and forth on Kreider so many times. Ultimately, he is showing what I used to tell the morons on HF and OTG. If he was such a great prospect, why couldn't he dominate in college? His PPG averages in college were nothing to write home about.
     
    kreidertime, Nov 28, 2015
    #4
  5. BigDaddyAl1973

    BigDaddyAl1973 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2013
    Messages:
    6,986
    Likes Received:
    1,457
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Accountant
    Location:
    Manorville, NY
    What makes it worse is the quote from him after the end of last year, how he knew it was now his time to put it all together...how he was going to work his ass off this off season in order to take the next step...

    Well that didnt work out to well...

    Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
     
    BigDaddyAl1973, Nov 28, 2015
    #5
  6. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2014
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yep Al. AV needs to seriously scratch this assclown. I'm starting to think as dumb as Kreider is, he can only play on one kind of line. A big, bully line where his two line-mates are big, physical, mean forwards. Otherwise, he's mostly useless.
     
    kreidertime, Nov 28, 2015
    #6
  7. NYR31

    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,402
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Kreider went overrated by Ranger fans for a long time even though his #s were never dominant, but he'd have a few games where he uses his amazing skills and everyone would jump on the bandwagon about how he's going to be a star.

    The inconsistency was always there but i don't think anyone realized the mental midget he seems to be.
     
    NYR31, Nov 28, 2015
    #7
  8. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He seems to wake up for the playoffs though
     
    mrmel29, Nov 28, 2015
    #8
  9. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2014
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I could care less that he admitted he has sucked this season. How freaking stupid are you? With your insane speed and tremendous size, if you skated full out each game and drove the net, you would get close to 80 points a year. It's not hard to figure out you dumbass.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2015
    kreidertime, Nov 29, 2015
    #9
  10. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,750
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I think 20g is going to be the realistic avg for him, not 30 as was hoped. Which is ok i guess but seeing as the team is already strapped for pure offensive talent is a bit of a downer.
     
    Ranger71, Nov 29, 2015
    #10
  11. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Kid is still 24. Yeah, lets get rid of this piece of shit that is big, skates like the wind, is physical, 20 plus goals a year and a proven playoff performer. Reason we can do this is we have a lot of these types of player on the team now and in the system below. ROTFLMAO. Everyone please take a chill pill.
     
    mrmel29, Nov 29, 2015
    #11
  12. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,794
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    48
    This Kreider playoff thing is a little overblown as well. We don't score in the playoffs, so when a player scores a couple he seems like a stud. Kreider disappears just as much in the playoffs as he does in the regular season.

    In 60 career playoff games Kreider has 18 goals and 31 points (and is a -7). Over an 82 game season that is 25 goals and 42 points. Certainly decent by playoff standards, but not sure that makes him a proven playoff performer.

    He is inconsistent and has many games where he simply doesn't show up (regular season and playoffs). He admitted himself he has been terrible this season, so this isn't us being unfair to him.

    With that said it is what it is. We aren't going to trade him. We are going to sink or swim with him this season. The only thing that might happen if he continues to suck is we won't sign him to a big deal this summer. Outside of that we simply need to hope he gets going because he will be here.

    Again...CK, Hayes, Miller, Etem...we need these guys to get going otherwise we are going to struggle I believe.
     
    chuckd3534, Nov 29, 2015
    #12
  13. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agree chuck, Kreider sucks. Trade the bum now
     
    mrmel29, Nov 29, 2015
    #13
  14. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,794
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    48
    No...if you agreed you would say what I just said...not the opposite of what I said mel...:).

    With that said it is what it is. We aren't going to trade him. We are going to sink or swim with him this season. The only thing that might happen if he continues to suck is we won't sign him to a big deal this summer. Outside of that we simply need to hope he gets going because he will be here.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2015
    chuckd3534, Nov 29, 2015
    #14
  15. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since nash is going now I'd like to see AV move krieds with brass and zucc and see if that gets him going.
     
    mrmel29, Nov 29, 2015
    #15
  16. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,794
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I actually wouldn't mind a big line of Kreider/Hayes/Nash. Then have Miller/Brass/Zucc. Then Etem/Lindberg/Fast. And Moore/Stoll/Stalberg.

    I want both my top lines to be threats, and without Stepan to me the best way to do that is separate Nash from Brass and Zucc.

    But if you said Kreider/Brass/Zucc AND Miller/Hayes/Nash were the top 6...I would be good with that as well. Separates Nash from Brass and Zucc, which is how I would play the top 6 right now as mentioned.
     
    chuckd3534, Nov 29, 2015
    #16
  17. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    10,413
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Works for me
     
    mrmel29, Nov 29, 2015
    #17
  18. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,750
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Outside of a relatively(compared to most other teams)low-skill offensive team, they still don't have that big time C, just a bunch of 2nd tier guys, which limits them some. If they could ever deal for E Staal and get PB over from Russia that could be a huge difference.
     
    Ranger71, Nov 29, 2015
    #18
  19. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2014
    Messages:
    10,166
    Likes Received:
    550
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Kreider is far to freaking dumb to give any top line minutes to. Those days are over. He's a third line player and probably an average one.
     
    kreidertime, Dec 5, 2015
    #19
  20. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,794
    Likes Received:
    63
    Trophy Points:
    48
    The lines the Rangers are using at practice right now are
    • Chris Kreider, Oscar Lindberg, Rick Nash
    • Kevin Hayes, Derick Brassard, Mats Zuccarello
    • JT Miller, Dominic Moore, Jesper Fast
    • Tanner Glass, Jarret Stoll, Viktor Stalberg
     
    chuckd3534, Dec 5, 2015
    #20
Page 1 of 3

Share This Page