Refsnyder or Starlin Castro......?

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  1. Mattingly23NY

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    Stick with Refsnyder. Besides Castro's nick name is "Hands of stone". Or should be.
     
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    ...but, but, but, Castro could be the answer to the 2B problem...lmao.
     
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    I hope the Yankees stick with Refsyyder. I've heard Castro can be a "head case" at times.
     
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    Also Castro has only played about 35 games at 2B in his career & not very well.
     
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    Castro HAS produced, is still young and NOBODY can really say he won't find himself and bbbbe at least as good defensively as Refsnyder could be/has been......but I also have no problem if the Yanks go with Refsnyder. None whatsoever. He seems to be part of the plan to HELP get younger and less expensive.
    And don't forget Ackley as a posible compliment for him at 2b.


    Don't worry, we'll revisit this again if Castro settles down at 2b and Refsnyder is a butcher at 2b - which I hope HE ISN'T!

    lmao
     
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    ...Hey, let's acquire Castro, let him sit and wait till we give Refsnyder/Ackley and maybe even Ryan a try...if those 3 can't hack it, switch Castro to 2B and give him the job !

    ...yeah, that's the ticket.
     
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    Yeah, that's the ticket,......

    but, but, but if all those mentioned fail, we can always petition, I mean Rick can petition to get Drew back
     
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    Bbbbut everyone (i.e. the "majority"of 5-7 on a Yankee Forum board,lol) will eventually find fault if the Yanks DO go with Refsnyder and he struggles defensively and possibly isn't quite the hitter some expected him to be. And of course the obligatory quips about "the plan" included.
    There's alot of Monday morn QBs around who sometimes suffer from convenient amnesia. Lol, a nice comfortable position to be in...if Refsnyder's does well, its all good, if he doesn't cut it...just revert back to ridiculing "the plan" or Cashman. Hilarious.

    Most of us believe it's Refsnyder's turn as he has demonstrated he can hit at AAA and a few ML ABs.
    Give credit to the majority who didn't want and never would've signed Drew to begin the 2015 season....I was the only one (?) who kinda understood the Yanks' reasoning and tolerated the Yanks signing Drew thinking with a full ST and fresh start he could give them .245-.255 BA with double digit HRs and good defense.
    After the first couple of months of him continuing with a .190-.200 BA, I was calling for the Yanks to promote Refsnyder and put him at 2b.
    And to be fair to Refsnyder's AND the Yanks, he himself admitted (in an article) he understood why the Yanks were keeping him at AAA.
    He pointed out how generally teams like to have a player learning a new position to have a certain amount of games at the position before giving them the job on the ML level, and he wasn't at THAT amount of games yet (at that point).

    The Refsnyder issue will probably be brought up one way or another during the 2016 season- whether the Yanks should've traded for a 2B or him being the regular 2b.

    As for Castro (still 25 yrs old) he certainly makes a ton of errors.
    Has a .281 career BA, been an AllStar three times.
    Since being a regular player he has averaged 153G per season.
    Had a down year with the bat (.245) in 2013....a .290 hitter otherwise.

    It'll be interesting to see how he does at 2b defensively if he remains at that position.

    And Cashman has NOT traded for Castro as we speak...it hasn't happened.
     
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    ...another light hitting IFer with questionable defense and a career OPS+ of 97...but yeah, let's try to convert him to a 2Bman anyway...and then cross our fingers.

    ...no to Castro.
     
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    And plan 2 would be Ackley full time if Refsnyder doesn't work out. We don't need Castro & his 35 games of experience at 2B.
     
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    ...hey, don't be questioning Cashman !
     
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    OOPS! I'm sorry, I forgot.
     
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    Okay - I hear ya. Can't find fault with it.
    I am not calling for the Yanks to trade for Castro.
    It's Refsnyder's job to lose - imo- as I have said in other posts.
    I think he WILL hit and if he's an average 2b, the Yanks can win with that package. I just hope he isn't a klutz at turning the DP.
    I am excited about Refsnyder- homegrown kid, converted to a "higher" profile position, has hit well...could be a very important player if the Yanks want to continue with this "younger less expensive" thing.
    lol
     
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    I am not calling for a trade for Castro.
    Want Refsnyder to have every chance to at least lose the job at 2b.
    And I wouldn't be surprised if Ackley does okay in his back-up role.
     
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    ...flip/flop
     
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    did the subject matter change to Hilllary......:devilwink::fishing: still trying to catch that bitch, I mean fish.....!
     
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    ...hey, don't be questioning Cashman !

    OOPS! I'm sorry, I forgot.
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    C'mon guys, lol....this one (Refsnyder) doesn't appear to be a dumbass move. Lol....even Cashman must know it isn't such a ridiculous move finding out what Ref can do.
    The kid already has a playoff game under his belt as a starting player....this has to help a bit if only to get the taste of "big game" butterflies/experience.

    Don't worry, I can bash :smiley-lol_hitting:Cashman with the best of them.
    I'm not related to him, I don't drink shots of Tequila out of his bellybutton, and I certainly don't perform any kinky "things" with him.

    :supporter:
     
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    ...no, it's just funny that a week ago he said that Castro could solve our 2B problem for several years and that he would do the Gardner for Castro deal and outlined his misguided reasons why...now he's saying hey, "I am not calling for a trade for Castro".

    ...yet more flip flopping and fence riding...spiffy !
     

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