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You want to sweeten the deal by adding SPD? You need to look up "sweeten" in the dictionary.

 

A Portland mayor who lives in another state would be so East-Coast.

 

Can someone please put together a list of top 20 players on their 20s that are available?

 

Apparently no one wants to take the time to put the list together.

 

Fine, I'll do it.

Top 20 Guys In Their 20s Who Are Up From Grabs:
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Demar Derozan had 34 points 5 rebounds and 5 assists tonight

 

Glad I didn't trade him in fantasy, I'm killing you right now!

 

DeRozen or Neil?

 

Also, my homie came up with these and I dig them. Check it out if you like things that make sense.


The Curry Rules, by Sue Denim

1-No Three's

2-No Floaters

3-Hedge Everything

4-Guard Klay, Not Dray

5-Make Him Play D


Steph Curry is doing things in the NBA that have never been done. He is terrifying defenses with his limitless range and lighting-quick shot. His ball handling has improved, his floaters and lay-ups are otherworldly, and his ability to navigate the floor has improved noticeably under the tutelage of all-time great Steve Nash. But here is what makes him the most dangerous: through 20 games, he has 5 quarters of 20 points or more. 5. No other player has more than 1. Those kind of outbursts win games. When Michael Jordan was in his heyday, he was virtually unstoppable. In order to give themselves a chance, the Bad Boy Pistons came up with what they called "The Jordan Rules," which were intended for stopping His Airness from stampeding all the way to the finals. Steph Curry is now worthy of such a set of rules.


Traditional basketball rationale dictates that when you rotate to the open man under Thibidouian defensive principals, the weak-side D rotates one man at a time to cover the ball being swung from strong to weak on the perimeter. This principle allows you to recover from double-teaming a great player or from gaps caused by defensive breakdowns. However, Curry commands at least two people within 30 feet of the cup, and, no matter how you shake it, the best passing team in the league (no disrespect to Pop's crew) is going to beat traditional defensive rotations. Passing is just faster and less exhaustive than running around trying to play catch up D. Some teams have adopted a counter measure of switching off of the man who is two passes over to gain a jump on the switching and confuse the offense, but this method can't be used with consistency early in the shot clock, especially against a team that is as intelligent as Golden State.


But here's the thing—one team figured out a new way to play under Thibs' scheme. Golden State stumbled upon it in the playoffs last year in the Memphis series when they were down 2-1 and on the road. Andrew Bogut was getting abused on his rotations and Memphis' offense was clicking. The Warrior's countered this by leaving an offensively challenged(being nice here) Tony Allen alone in the corner and forcing him to make the play in 4 on 3 scenarios. It was a resounding success and Golden State only lost one more game between the West Semi's and now, 20 games into the 2015-16 season.


This is where the Curry Rules kick in. Other than Mr. Curry himself, the Warriors have just one weapon from deep, and that's Klay Thompson. Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes, and Andre Igoudala are all capable of hitting form deep, but none of them can claim it as a strength. And their back-up guards(Livingston, Barbosa) are not on the team for their long range abilities. So, the best jump shooting team in the league has two true jump shooters. That is their weakness. If you hedge like a madman on all Curry screens, you can eliminate all but the most difficult Curry threes, not to mention his forays into the lane. If you hedge like mad, the Warriors are either going to swing the ball around to the open three, or they're going to dump to the screener(this is the better play) and have him create a 4 on 3 opportunity without Curry. This is what Barnes, Igoudala and Green excel at, and what Cleveland did wrong. Cleveland was so terrified of the three that they gave up the lethal 4 on 3 situations quarterbacked most often by Draymond Green, who knows what he's doing. That's why, in order to guard this horrifying offensive juggernaut, you have to pick what weapon you let them use. You can't let Curry beat you, you can't let Thompson's man switch at the expense of giving up a three, and you can't let them beat you with 4 on 3's. So leave the others open for three. You force an otherwise streamlined offense to live and die solely on the Warrior's role players making catch and shoot threes. You have two guys on Curry, one on Thompson, you plug the middle, and you make other guys beat you with the weakest part of their game, shooting without Curry and Thompson getting them in rhythm.



If you look at the first clip in the video, you will see that helping off Livingston is what has to be done even though he is on the ball. Give that shot to Livingston, and not Thompson

 

Do you trust Neil?

So far his trades are looking mediocre.

Vonleh is extremely raw and not even close to being a rotation player. It's a contract year for Nic but he's playing at an All-Star level - at SG.

The Brooklyn trade has worked out well for both teams but long term is concerning - RHJ, before the injury, looked every bit as disruptive on defense as Oladipo. His jumper is broken but he showed Tony Allen-like potential.

Giving up a first-rounder for a declining player who was going to opt out stings. Barton playing like ADHD Ginobli only compounds it.

 

I do think it was a mistake to give up on will Barton He is one player that I wish we still had. He is shooting 46%, 14ppg, 5 rebounds, 40% from downtown in 27 min a game.

 

Yes.

This is essentially Vonleh's rookie year after missing time last year in Charlotte. From all accounts, Olshey tried to move Batum for a 2015 lottery pick but no one was biting so he found one from 2014. Noah's overall instincts are great but he needs more time to grow his confidence. Batum is having a great year in Charlotte but he is going to get PAID next offseason. Does anyone really want to give Nico MAX money? I mean, good for him, but consistency has always been an issue for Nic and we all know how much he loves playing for France in the summers.

Brooklyn trade was good value. While I firmly wanted to keep RHJ for his defense, it's hard to be upset at getting a 25 year-old starting center for the 23rd pick in the draft.

Most likely, we will not have to give up a first-round pick to Denver. Even so, it was a good move. We were a Top 4 team out West last year and it was time to go all-in. I'm pretty sure a ton of fans would have been upset at Olshey had he not made any moves at the deadline. Unfortunately, Afflalo didn't work out here in Portland but sometimes you have to take a risk and go for it all.

Neil also signed Ed Davis to a 3-year, $21 million deal this summer which is looking like the bargain of the offseason. He traded two second round picks for Allen Crabbe, drafted CJ McCollum in 2013, Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, and Will Barton in 2012, acquired Moe Harkless for nothing and picked up Aminu on a reasonable deal.

Olshey could have very well found stop-gap players to help us sneak into the playoffs this offseason once Aldridge left, but he was smart enough to realize being mediocre is the worst spot to be at in the NBA. Not all trades and signings are slam dunks but, overall, I like what he's done.

 

Definitely a mixed bag. I don't care to go through all his moves at the moment, but I'd say there are probably more "misses" than "hits".
With that said, I don't want to replace him.

 

Hibbert
Hawes
Aminu (I know some people love him - I see him as a mixed bag)

Olshey has had some questionable FA targets.

 

He hasnt overpaid yet. Not that we havent offered to overpay a few people (Kanter/Monroe/Hibbert) but even Hibbert looked like a bargain after his first year of that contract.

 

I'd give up a lot to get Olynyk but I think he's not for sale. The Celtics know him well enough to at least wait for a very enticing offer for him

 

With Colangelo on board they may be looking at a major overhaul. Not a firesale by any means.

B-Edge has an article on this btw. The time to poach is now.

I'd go all in to get Jahlil out of that toxic environment. Same goes for Dario Saric.