I hope they don't deal Yandle for a pick and/or prospect because that would mean we are struggling and not a real SC threat, because no shot they make a deal like that if we are.
I hate Boyle...I hate Glass...I hate Nieves...they all suck...hey let's trade them for Vrbata. I'm sure that will be the Canucks best offer and they will jump right on it...LOL.
Once again, you're a moron who doesn't read, does no research about other teams players and over-values them. Vrbata is 34. He's a -17 this season with 12 points. In other words, he has sucked beyond belief and the Canucks have lost 4 or 5 in a row and are below .500. While I don't like Nieves, the majority of our stupid fan base still seems to. Vrbata is adding nothing to the Canucks. In fact, I'd say that Boyle despite my criticism of him has been much more valuable to the Rangers than Vrbata has this year to the Canucks. It's amazing how f'n stupid you are on other teams players sometimes as well as our own. You continue ever year to overrate players on losing teams with their value and think almost all of the Rangers players and prospects are worthless. You continue to think this team is built to win now. Which is hilarious considering every time their is a trade proposal, our players are worth nothing according to you. You are probably one of the few people in our fan base that thinks this team is a contender. All I heard this week on the FAN was the truth from most of our fans. This is not a cup contender and it's not a team built for the playoffs. What Vrbata did last year means nothing. Right now Boyle is having a better year than Vrbata. Vrbata not only is giving the Canucks nothing offensively, he's been one of the worst defensive players in all of hockey. In reality, the Rangers would be taking a significant risk here IMO. Adding a bad defensive player to a team struggling defensively. I'd make this deal only on the idea that the rest of this team would improve defensively in order to hide Vrbata's stupidity.
And if we are struggling around trade DL time or even through February then we'll make the moves we need to make for the future. I know 27 games in I am not ready to write the team off, but that's what you do every year dump so no surprise that is your position. And good for you bro, I respect your right to have that opinion. Just like last season and the season prior to that you pronounce us dead early, and that is cool. I am not ready to sell off Yandle for picks/prospects 27 games in though when we are 1 point out of 1st place. As for Vrbata teams see what you see...a guy struggling this year but was good last year. Pretty sure they can get more than crap, which is what Boyle/Glass/Nieves is, for him.
It's the same every year with you Chuck. You always want to give up the future to go for it now. Yet, all the players on this team which wins a lot during the regular season, suck value wise when people here are looking to trade a few of them for losing teams players. Just because we don't like Glass or Boyle doesn't mean they aren't upgrades for crap teams like Vancouver. Vancouver's defenseman are laughable rejects. I would say Boyle would be in their top 3 the second he got there. Nieves is not a prospect I like. However, his numbers for college are not horrific. I just don't care for his work ethic expect more offense in college. I guarantee if I put Lindberg in a deal at the beginning of last year for Vrbata you would have said he sucks, Vancouver wouldn't ever trade Vrbata for that garbage prospect. I guarantee it and I know this board would completely agree with that.
If the Rangers sign Nieves it'll be interesting to see if he takes a step forward outside of Michigan and the NCAA. Fogarty as well.
I don't want to do anything except be patient and see where we are in 8 weeks +/-. That's it. I don't want to deal Yandle for picks/prospects after 27 games. I also don't want to deal youth for older players right now. And no I don't think the Canucks would deal Vrbata for crap. But as I usually say, I will leave fantasy trades that never EVER EVER happen to you. That's your area of expertise dump...LOL.
1. Why would boyle ok going to Vancouver? 2. Why would vancover want glass when they had a chance to get him doe pennies on the dollar? 3. So basically its give me a third rate prospect and two players you dont want for a player we dont appear to want.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
I would offer D.Moore/2nd/b-prospect for Vrbata, if they have an interest in him. Moore is expendable imo.
Vrbata doesn't have a lot of value. His defense sucks. He's pretty much one dimensional. He's a righty shot. That's it. Every time the Rangers played him he pretty much was invisible. Yet, he's still somebody that fits better than Boyle here. So to me, it's 2 teams dumping players that aren't really working for them.
Let's assume VAN is "going into the toilet" and will miss the playoffs. Makes sense for them to move their expiring contracts. But it makes zero sense for them to get back as the main piece another expiring contract, let alone somebody who they certainly would not be resigning at the end of the year. It just doesnt add up. Vrbata very well may move, but it won't be for Dan Boyle and Tanner freaking Glass. A team "going into the toilet" gets back picks and prospects for their expiring contracts, not a 38 year old and the worst player in hockey. And just for the record, I'd love Vrbata here. I've been saying since before the draft that top 6 RW is this team's biggest hole. But that package isn't going to land him.
Still didnt answer why boyle would agree to moving to the other side of the continent Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Bob McKenzie on TSN 1040 on the Vancovuer Canucks and Radim Vrbata. “Well, I don’t think there’s any question for now they’re keeping him. Obviously, come February 29th, if they’re in dire straits and not in the playoffs, then you’ve got to contemplate all of the options open to you – whether it’s Vrbata, Hamhuis, or anybody you don’t have signed for next year. But let’s make no mistake. The ownership group in Vancouver – as well as Trevor Linden, Jim Benning – the goal is to be competitive. The goal is to try and make the playoffs. And you’re not going to do that if you just dump all your assets for future considerations. Now, do they have an eye on the future? Absolutely they do. But they never lose sight of the fact that the mandate from ownership of the Vancouver Canucks is, ‘Try very hard to make the playoffs. Try very hard to be competitive while we filter in the young players that were drafted.’ "
..................meanwhile, if you haven't noticed, the Rangers have the lowest goal against average per games played.
Does anyone have any updates on Skjei? I haven't gotten to see any Hartford games this year but from reading the Hartford watchers I follow it sounds like he's having a very difficult time adjusting down there. Sounds like Graves has been more impressive.
Read the same reports Prod and it looks like the kid needs the whole season down there to work on his game so hopefully he'll be ready next season. Although if rangers get an injury on the left side wouldn't be surprised if they brought him up to fill in.
No problem with letting Skjei play all year down there. However, trading Yandle is a must. For what they gave up for that assclown, they can't afford to let him leave for nothing. Vancouver blows. When they are out of the playoffs, they will dump many players. That will happen. My first choice at half his salary is Pouliot. Oilers are a joke. Those morons are clueless. At this point, they probably would deal Pouliot just to dump half his salary. We seriously need to get him back. Kreider is a moron. He makes Pouliot look brilliant.
Moron Brooks updates organizations feelings on prospects http://nypost.com/2015/12/26/win-now-rangers-defend-future-analyze-promising-prospects/
