Official Kreider has nothing in the toolbox thread

I said it last year. Out GM needs to stupid proof our coach and either cut or trade that worthless piece of crap Tanner Glass.

 

Moore and Fast on the 3rd line...yeah.

Missing Step, and Etem being useless, and Miller being useless, and Kreider sucking has really hurt us upfront.

 

Glass in line up again next game. . Gorton has to save AV from himself again

 

Of course you could make the point with Buchnevich coming over next year, Kreider will be pushed down to the 4th line and the expectations for him will drop to that of a 3rd line player. 35 to 40 points. He still remains one of the few tools we have at forward that produces in the playoffs. Though, I think Lindberg is going to be one of those guys. He's always done that as a prospect in the playoffs. He raises his game.

 

In 60 career playoff games Kreider has 18 goals and 31 points (and is a -7). Over an 82 game season that is 25 goals and 42 points. Certainly decent by playoff standards, but not sure that makes him a proven playoff performer.

 

That's because again, you don't do any research. If you look at the playoff production from players on every team, there probably aren't many players averaging 25 goals for 82 playoff games when playoff goals are far and few between unless you are on the Blackhawks. Over his last 31 games, Ovechkin would be averaging 25 goals in an 82 game schedule. After his early playoff years, he's been Kreider in the playoffs. Crosby over his last 38 playoffs games is averaging 28 goals over a projected 82 game schedule and less than a PPG.

 

Like I said...it is good by playoff standards...but I don't think it makes him this playoff stud or proven playoff performer. On this team where NO ONE scores in the playoffs, sure, but overall it is good playoff production not some stud or big time playoff production.

Either way it really doesn't matter though. The Rangers are not dealing him and giving up on a 24 year old player with his natural skills. They will sink or swim with him, and I get it.

I still say if they do look to improve upfront Miller might be the guy who goes before Kreider, but they would then be 100% saying it is cup this year or next year or we are f'd.

Long way to go before we need to decide which direction the team should go trade wise...win now or try and add some prospects/picks to retool for next year and beyond.

I can tell you this much though, with Hank getting older we are not going to punt for 3 or 4 years from now...worst case they see this year isn't coming together and they make a few moves 100% geared towards next season, but again that is a long way off.

But if we don't get some of the useless forwards going (Miller/Etem/Kreider/Hayes to a lesser extent), then we will be in trouble.

 

Etem will either be a throw in to a dl deal or just let go next summer, with the way he's going. Gropp will be the return from that deal. As for Kreider he's only hurting his wallet with this lack of production, but i don't see him being traded.

 

According to Chuck every year. All our players suck. All our prospects suck. Yet this team is built to win now and our GM should trade all our high picks.

Boyle probably would be in the top 4 for at least 10 NHL teams right now. He just isn't good enough on this roster to start over Girardi, Klein or McIlrath.

 

CK makes $2.6 this year, his ineffectiveness is hurting him in the pocketbook at contract talks. Figure he'll be resigned for $4 mil which I think is a bargain for a player with his skills. Why trade a young RFA with so much potential?

 

Buchnevich wimping out and staying in the K hurts as i think he would be making a big impact already. His mindset of fearing the language barrier worries me a bit.

 

Actually you are the one who thinks all our players suck dump...that's why you start a thread knocking Kreider AND call yourself dump Stralman, dump Avery, dump Boyle, dump Glass, on and on AND pronounce us dead every year in November/December...LOL.

And then after you say they suck you come up with fantasy trades that deal the players you think suck for another teams good players. You know the 698557857857578598 fantasy trades you come up with per season that never happen.

I love when we do this so I can read your funny responses.

Oh dumpy...love ya bro....

 

I don't think anybody is listening to you at this point Chuck. Your dumb philosophy has left the team without first round picks for 3-4 years with nothing to show for it.

 

Okay dump. The dumb philosophy that you agreed with and liked every single one of those deals (AGAIN let's not let facts get in the way dumpy).

You are the one that thinks all our players suck DUMP (you know how you pronounce us dead every November/December)...but what's amazing is while you say this guy sucks and that guy sucks, and dump this guy and dump that guy you STILL make up nonsense trades where we deal the guys you think suck and get back some other teams good player. Oh and the deals NEVER EVER EVER happen.

You rock dumpy...please keep it up...LOL.

 

Once again, your philosophy of going for it now has destroyed the farm. Resulted in nothing but failure. The most amusing thing continues to be how you love players on losing teams and think they are worth a ton more than the Rangers players that win. Your head is full of rocks with 2 or 3 things. You probably don't even have a clue who Saarela is.

 

Dump...just because you loved all the trades we made, especially the Nash and MSL deals, don't lash out at me...LOL.

And what players do I love on dump? You loved the Nash and MSL deals more than anyone on these boards. You loved the Yandle deal at the time. I don't make up fantasy trades...you do fella. So how do you know what players I love on or don't love on.

And right now all I want is patience after 27 games. Not to deal Yandle for picks and/or prospects. Not to deal a pile of our trash for Vrbata. And not to AGAIN give up on the season in November/December like you do every single season.

So again let's not let facts get in the way. And PLEASE keep doing what you do. I love reading it. Sometimes I think this cannot be happening and maybe I am in the twilight zone with some of your posts, but then I realize yeah this dude is for real...and that's when it gets fun again.... Like playing with your little 3 year old cousin...LOL. Wouldn't be fun if you weren't serious, but you are and that makes it awesome.

 

The problem with kreider is there is no one in the organization to show him how to use his body. We need a shannahan around..a keith primeau around..ever since the shitty calls for charging and boarding kreider has lost any agreesivnes to his game. And no one on this current team could challenge him to start manning up

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How come he can never hit the net with a shot Al....

I hear you though...he does need to man up already. Enough BS...this isn't rocket science. Man up and play hockey the way you were meant to play it CK.

 

Graves should be a mentor if he isn't already

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