OT Why the Bucks beat the Warriors

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Here's why I think the Bucks beat the Warriors:
    1. Defense - Kidd had the Bucks playing an innovative defense last season. It hasn't been great this season but they're rounding into form
    2. Big guards - OJ Mayo and Khris Middleton were the starters and Carter-Williams came off the bench. All big and tough.
    3. A real low-post scorer - they're a rarity in the NBA these days and Monroe can make them keep Bogut in and stop them going to their killer small-ball unit
    4. But the MAIN reason they won: the Celtics. They took the Warriors to double OT yesterday and exhausted them.
     
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    The Warriors played Bogut and Ezeli big minutes last night, especially down the stretch. Bogut came up with 2 or 3 huge timely blocks toward the end of the game.

    For the season, the two combine for 40 MPG.
     
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    Please tell me more about this defense.
     
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    Here's why

    Warriors coming off a 2OT back to back. 7th of a 7 game road trip to boot.
     
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    Here's why, scored more points. I win.
     
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    Had to wait until the end but you nailed it. Thompson and Iquodala, short with nearly everything. Open shots, clank!
     
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    Well Thompson didn't play last night, but he is dealing with an ankle injury.
     
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    So close to being the first to sweep a 7 game trip. I'm actually sad the Warriors lost. I wanted it to keep going. It's not like we can catch them.
     
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    I know, they're doing something that we will never see again. Crazy. I wanted it to keep going.
     
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    In my mind's alternate universe the Blazers started 37-0 three years ago.
     
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    Sucks. I was pulling hard for them... but that celtics game wiped them out. 25-0 just sounds so much nicer. 24-1 will do, I suppose. 6-1 on a 7 game road trip... Had 7-0 on a road trip ever happened? I doubt it. And i think KS said it earlier...
     
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    Here you go.
     
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    But apparently not huge and timely enough.
     
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    Over the past ten games, the best teams in the NBA have been:
    The Spurs
    The Warriors
    The Thunder
    in that order.
    When do the Spurs play the Warriors? Of course, if it's not in the playoffs, Pop might rest everybody just to fuck with people.
     
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    They won that game and 24 others (in a row) playing Bogut and Ezeli 40 minutes a night.
     
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    A couple of points:
    1. Your math is off. Yes, they're both averaging 20 mpg, but Ezeli's average minutes were bumped way up when Bogut was out. There's no way they both play 20 mpg when they're both healthy.
    2. The time they're actually blowing people out is when they go small. But they don't want to wear Green out, so they bide their time. Bogut and Ezeli are more like placeholders who are occasionally positionally helpful than vital reasons for their success. This was obvious in the Finals when they decided the season was on the line and got serious and benched Bogut and destroyed the Cavs.
     
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    I can only tell you what I saw in the games I watched. Both guys played and played with the game on the line. Even offense/defense substitutions (one for the other).

    GSW is playing most of the time with a true C on the floor, not small ball. The minutes don't lie.
     
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    Milwaukee:
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    Boston:
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    Indiana

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  19. Rastapopoulos

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    You cited three games where the Warriors played worse than usual. Perhaps their problem is they've stopped playing enough smallball?
     
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    Serious question: which of them is supposed to be the "offense"?
     
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