A thread where you can voice reality that the dumbasses in charge signed a bunch of tool defenseman to long term contracts who blow as well as forwards who have no clue how to cover anybody. A thread where the same few assclowns will babble how everything is OK and that this team doesn't suck when anybody with a clue can see that they pretty much have sucked all year but Hank saved their sorry asses.
I think we should rename it to The Official "A Bunch of Previously Good Posters Have Turned Into Whining Women who Can't Handle a Little Adversity and Losing Even Though it Happens Every Year, and Instead of Contruting Thoughtful Discussion Have Turned a Fun, Quality Discussion Board into a PMS Party" Thread.
They have had a lot of success. They have hit a rough patch but I don't think trashing the entire team is the answer. Some individual players certainly need to step it up. The bottom line is you can't trade everyone and other general managers aren't sitting by the phone waiting to take players you don't want in exchange for their entire pantry of goods.
I think you need to open your eyes Prod. The team has played like crap all season. Anybody who watched the games could see even when they built up that big record, they were being outplayed every game. They were giving up glorious scoring chances in bunches every game. I quoted a stat early in the year. I'll quote it again. The amount of games the rejects on this team have given up over 30 shots a game is mind boggling. It's now 18 out of 31 games. Comical. This isn't a bad stretch. This is bad play from the beginning of the season. The only reason they had the record they did was because Hank played out of his freakin mind. If he was even just good in that stretch they would have been close to .500. The 6 defenseman not including McIlrath on this team make a combined 28.5 million. That averages to 4.75 million a season. The fact this team has given up the glorious scoring chances all season with that payroll on defense is a f'n disgrace. It's quite easy to figure out if you watch the sports world. You have a bunch of assclowns that are overpaid, no longer give a shit and aren't hungry any more. That's a huge problem that needs to be quickly resolved by our new, do nothing, GM.
Unfortunately Chuck's pea brain can't comprehend that the window is closing on this group. Mostly because the defense is overpaid and looks like they are 100 other than McIlrath. They need to open up the window again by having their GM get his head out of his ass and convince a couple of our defenseman they aren't wanted here any longer and find somebody stupid enough to take them. There are always other GM's stupid enough to take teams players.
Again...swing and a miss. I have said time AND TIME again we have a small window here. Maybe this year and next year tops. And swing and a miss on dealing a dman also...I have said time AND TIME again I would deal Staal if we could get him to waive his NTC. I rather have Yandle. So focus on yourself and jumping ship every December, and don't worry about incorrectly calling out my opinion...LOL. FACTS DUMP...
You continue to not look at Chicago that won 3 cups and after 2 of them, completely broke things down and traded players. You want to keep the same assclowns together every season and just add another player to the core which hasn't won jack shit in a decade. You act like this team won cups. If it wasn't broken so you don't need to fix it. The team hasn't won crap. It is broken. Whatever the core is, it doesn't get the ultimate job done. Granted, the Hawks have Kane and Toews, super high picks. However, they supporting cast they have is something they constantly tinker with.
The Hawks tinker with their supporting cast because they have to stay under the payroll, since they have so much money tied up in Kane, Toews, Keith and Seabrook. I dont think they wanted to trade Saad or Sharp to just tinker with their supporting cast.
Right Step. And I don't think anyone in here has said we shouldn't do some tinkering also to keep this team fresh. I am 100% on board with that. Move Staal if we can and get a decent forward back to replace him, I'm on board. Lindberg is up. McIlrath is getting his chance. Miller is getting a chance. Hags is gone and Etem is here. So we have done some tinkering. Now we simply need the D to wake up like they usually do, and CK/Miller/Hayes to get their sh*t together. But I am fully on board with making some changes to the supporting cast. Move Staal for a forward if you can...I love it.
They just have to get Staal to waive NTC or whatever that shit called so they can move him. He can be a top d-men on many other teams that dress crap on d on the nightly basis.
Peaks and valleys. The problem with the contracts given to the defensemen is the no trade clause. I've been saying for weeks "where's the Captain?", need more leadership from the locker room to motivate the youth. McDonough's on pace for his best scoring season and I expect his play with the mental errors and being out of position to improve. I'm not so sure with Staal and Girardi, I don't see them getting stronger on the boards or that suddenly Girardi will stop bouncing off guys he's trying to hit but their decision making should improve with coaching. I'll give Boyle some credit, he's picked up his play. McIlrath has been the best defensive player on the ice, wanted him up last year but most posters said he was a bust, clearly he had some type of epiphany during the off season. Yandle hasn't impressed me, I don't think he's worth $6+ yearly and the Rangers can't afford him anyway - he's a logical piece to use with an RFA in a trade. Offense starts with a good breakout pass from your own zone and this is where the defense killed the Rangers last year postseason with their inability to get the puck out of the zone. It would also be nice to see some crisp outlet passing from Staal and Girardi instead of the wobbling flip passes that have to be settled with a skate. I do agree that Hank made some of the greatest saves of his career early in this season to bail out defensive blunders.
Staal or Yandle won't be here next season. I would prefer Staal be the player on the move, but that will be difficult given his NTC. Also going to be hard to get good value for now if we deal Yandle given he's a UFA this summer. Usually when you deal guys like that it is to teams that are going for it and looking to deal picks/prospects to win now. Just not sure we'd do a deal like that unless we are out of it. Otherwise we may just ride it out with Yandle this season. I agree with a lot of what you said panzer (except the part about the D being the killer in the post season last year...I think the O generating scoring chances and shooting the puck more often is what killed us not the D breakout passes).
If Yandle walks for free with what we gave up to trade him that will be a massive fail for this team.
Can't say it any better than that. and since for whatever reason he is still the no more than the 3rd pair d-man on this team it is now time to start getting some assets back for him. Maybe maloney is tired of duclair.
Maloney pulled a coup over Ranger management. From what I have seen of his on ice skills, Yandle was advertised to the hilt......and the Rangers bit.......real hard! Get what they can because I do not see him breaking out any time soon. What you see is what you get. The reason the Rangers bit on Yandle was that they had nothing ready in their system......to advance in the playoffs. I do not think he is a difference maker............what many of us thought at the time of this trade.
I actually agree with that 100%, but based on what I have seen and read I do not think they will put the mandate down on Yandle at the trade DL like we did on Cally, Zucc, and Staal. Based on all I have seen, if we are in it at the trade DL we will not deal away Yandle for picks/prospects. Anything is possible though. Maybe deal him for picks/prospects and then turn some of that haul around to add a dman for now elsewhere. Who knows.
I've said this for months and tool Chuck considers this giving up the season because is CLUELESS on how to keep a team competitive. Chicago trades guys they will lose every f'n year. Thus why they always have a strong farm and why they constantly get new players to keep the team hungry. Like I said, if they got Pouliot back at half his salary and the Oilers second this year and maybe a 4th, it's a great deal. They can take a long look at trading Stall, or Boyle if they are told the team wants to dump them and see what they can return. The future defense of this team will be McIlrath, Skjei, Graves and McDonagh. They need to trade for a young righty, defenseman they can build around along with McIlrath.
Like I just wrote...I agree with you all on this actually. I don't consider it giving up the season. With that said, all I have read and seen says they will not just deal Yandle away for picks/prospects at the trade DL if we are in it. This isn't Zucc, or Cally, or Staal. Now maybe they could deal him and have another deal lined up for a forward or dman to replace him and strengthen the team, but based on all I have read they won't just flip Yandle for down the road if we are in it. Who knows though.
