How Does Alvin Gentry Still Have A Job?

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  1. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    The Pelicans are 6-18. With that roster, I can't imagine any competent coach having them at less than .500. Gentry has to have a noose tightening around his neck...and Monty Williams has to be enjoying this.
     
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    BRING MONTY BACK always liked the guy great coach I have no idea why Gentry has another head coaching job when was he ever successful as a head coach?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Didn't they have a huge rash of injuries early on?
     
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    Darkwebs Awakened to emptiness Staff Member Moderator

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    Yes, they did. Tyreke Evans was out early in the season, Holiday has been on restricted minutes, Pondexter missed significant time as well.
     
  5. illmatic99

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    Their defense is miserable. Given AD's talent, they should not be that pitiful. Our guys were just getting whatever they wanted in the paint
     
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    AD is overrated as a rim protector. Players have always shot around 50% at the rim with him in the vicinity (3 feet I think?).. So basically he often doesn't make guys alter shots, he just blocks a few no one else could. AD is becoming one of the most overrated players in the league..
     
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    Um no, AD is rated fine as is. Think it has more to do with the fact that their guards are all matadors on the perimeter, and their system is garbage.
     
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    Steve Kerr credits Gentry with winning the championship last season..going to New Orleans from Golden State is not going to carry over that kind of success immediately. Stotts didn't win much his first season here but both he and Gentry are good coaches. New Orleans has had a lot of early setbacks
     
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    So you think he's the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league? And just because there's more drives to the bucket doesnt mean that teams will shoot a higher percentage at the rim with him defending. Watch him. He doesnt move in front of guys.. It's either an impressive block or an open layup.
     
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    Easily.
     
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    ESPN really has done their job on you...
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Huh?

    A 22 year old who put up a 31 PER last year is a top player in the league.

    I don't need ESPN to tell me that. I have eyes and am not an idiot.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Curry, LeBron, Durant and WB have all been better than Davis so far.
     
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    http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/
    Look at the amount of shots he actually contests! And teams still shoot 44%, which is decent rim protection but not "best in the league".

    PER is your basis for how good he is? PER is the must overused stat when measuring how good someone is. That and blocks for how good someone as rim protection.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    This year so far, ya. I'll take that.
     
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    Paul George is better as well. Hell, so is Blake Griffin
     
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    So opponent FG% vs contest. He's at 43.5%. Not 50% as you claimed earlier.

    Davis is 7th in the league among PFs and Cs playing > 25 mpg behind only Gobert (35%), Ibaka (39.5%), Jerami Grant (?), Brook Lopez (42.4%) , Whiteside (42.6%), and Draymond Green (42.8%).

    Considering the names on that list, I'd say he's an elite rim protector. Even moreso when you consider what little help he has alongside him.
     
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    Last year he was at 49%. These guys are also contesting twice the amount of shots he is, which is what a rim protector does, you know, protect the rim. He's still only doing that 22% of the time while these other guys are doing at about a 30-40% clip.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    #statstuffer

    Remember when Kevin Love was thought to be the best PF in the league because, ya know, stats? I bet he had a really high PER too..
     

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