Celtics, Heat and Bulls Lining Up for DeMarcus Cousins

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  1. truebluefan

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    Sacramento Kings All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins has drawn significant trade interest from the Boston Celtics, Miami Heat and Chicago Bulls, league sources tell SheridanHoops.

    Sacramento is listening, but the Kings are in a holding pattern and currently have no plans to make a deal despite sitting in 13th place in the 15-team Western Conference, the sources said.

    But should owner Vivek Ranadive, general manager Vlade Divac and coach George Karl decide to change course, they have been made acutely aware what is available from the Celtics, Heat and Bulls.

    Read more at http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/1...-up-for-demarcus-cousins/#IzEeVgG8wXYhsHuT.99
     
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    I'm not a Cousins fan. Seems like a whack job. Kid can play, though. Sacto can have two assets for Cousins...1 or 2 of our current bigs of their choice. If they don't want 2 of our bigs, they can have their favorite Bulls big + a first-round pick...any that we have. If that's not enough, screw it.
     
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    We could use him, no about it. Anyone but Butler.
     
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    such sweet thunder Member Staff Member Moderator

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    For Cousins? I think you're talking at least Jimmy and three firsts. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls do not possess enough assets to make any move for him.
     
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    Perhaps worth a try. Unfortunately I don't see the Bulls getting a deal done.
     
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    Well, that makes it easy for me. If they want Butler, the answer is no. No sense doing the deal if we end up with the same number of stars.
     
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    Weren't the Kings high on Snell around draft time? You'd think the 3 years of sub-10 PER since then would be enough to discourage them from wanting his services but I think teams lose their crush on prospects very slowly.....it certainly seems the Bulls operate this way.

    He might have more trade value with them than the league at large. I assume Niko would have to go as well because he's the only guy on our team besides Butler who has strong trade value right now.

    I would think Taj has to stay because he's the only one of him, Pau and Noah that's a decent fit next to Cousins. Having 3 C's on a team who all need playing time is very awkward.

    Would the Kings have any use for Pau or Noah? I'm not clear on what their plans are right now so it's difficult for me to say.

    Would Snell, Niko, Pau/Noah + their pick be a reasonable starting point for a deal?
     
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    I'm not sure what they would be looking for or if the above would be enough.

    Dougie / Niko / pick / Snell plus Pau or Noah would work for me if they would take it. We'll take Caron Butler and Acy off their hands too if they want.

    Build around Jimmy and Boogie going forward. We're getting a borderline superstar / superstar for a bunch of average to above average players. Why would Sacto want to do this again?
     
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    The funny part of that trade would be that the Bulls would have essentially shipped a cadre of Hoiberg-type players to build around two guys who are probably better playing at a Thibodeau pace.

    On a completely unrelated note, sometimes when you ask one question you get an answer to another: to me the player on the Bulls who has the most value besides Butler is Doug McDermott (not including Portis who is probably in the no-ship category as an unknown). McDermott's career trajectory changed in a hurry.
     
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    Maybe. That has more to do with the lack of prospects though than anything.

    It looks like Doug will be able to stick in the league due to his marksmanship. That's good. What else at this point does he do well?

    And I assume you mean future value or trade value? Gasol is currently a much better NBA basketball player than McDermott. Jimmy is a more valuable commodity than Dougie by quite a lot currently. It would be interesting to poll the GMs and see who they like better at this point, Dougie or Niko.
     
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    This is true, but talent trumps system. And Hoiberg seems to understand this based on the way he's coached the team so far. But I agree, a grind-it-out halfcourt system seems best for those two guys.

    I think I'm with K4E on this one. Doug's established himself as a rotation player that can provide spacing, but I'm not sure how the league perceives him beyond his current role. I think he might be one of those guys that takes a while to hit his peak since his offense is system dependent and he doesn't operate with a large margin of error on most of his shots.

    If I had to start a team I'd still choose Niko. I think if Niko were a free agent last year he would've gotten a max contract from someone. Now I'm not so sure, but I can't imagine Doug drawing the same level of interest.
     
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    I don't think McDermott's success is based on the system, partly because they're not really playing "the system" all that much. When you see the way he's scoring, he could do that for any team. McDermott has said on several occasions that he feels more comfortable this season because he knows he can miss some. I just think that he's re-discovered his mojo. Good thing.
     

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