Politics Chaos in the Democratic presidential primary

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Denny Crane, Dec 18, 2015
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    Bernie gets cuckold'ed by his own party.
     
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    He could always go independent
     
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    Surprised she's not in jail... O nevermind ....
     
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    I have no idea about this situation, but in general I think the parties have way too much power and say in the elections. Both for the Democrats and the Republicans. They design the rules to make it very difficult for non D's and R's to get in debates or get heard, they pick and choose who they will throw their weight behind and who they will let twist in the wind. And then they try and manipulate the voters to make sure that "their" candidate gets the nod. The Republican party is doing everything they can figure to thwart Trump because they are fearful of just saying you don't hold our values and push him into running independent. And with Hillary, the Democratic party is making sure she gets all the rules, structure and perhaps even other non-legal assists to make sure Sanders doesn't foil their plans.

    It sickens me, and is a sign of a truly broken system. Our votes only mean something if we agree with the party powers.
     
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    I'm convinced we need to do away with the long campaign and shorten it to 6 weeks...over and done. This is an ugly field to vote for across the board, looks like I'll once again have to vote against the one I dislike the most, it's a shame and that does say the system is broken
     
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    I think we just need to do away with the parties altogether. If there are no parties, then people will have to vote in accordance with who has the most similar values or policies instead of who captains their team. That, and campaign finance to limit influence. Those two changes would have the side effect of shorter campaigns.
     
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    Looks like the Bernie/DNC fight is already over...

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    Need background checks of some kind on something.
     
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    We know.
     
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    In other words, when people have the capital to influence the elected officials they have the most sway.
     
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    Unions have no influence?
    Planned Parenthood has no influence?
    I think they do, and to as huge a degree as any other organization.
     
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    They shouldn't have the ability to donate money to sway the officials. They should be able to lobby, just so far as meetings and perhaps being able to say they stand for their constituents, but they shouldn't be able to give thousands or millions of dollars. Right, Left and Center, the money is not how groups should be influencing. It's wrong and it's destroying our nation.
     
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    A pool of thousands of issue voters is influence.

    The Unions think it necessary to take from the workers to fund political activity. Planned Parenthood pays big money for lobbying. Both get big concessions and cash from the government. Hell, Obama gave the union a car company.

    Corporations represent their shareholders' interests.

    Seems to me everyone's interests are being represented.

    Vote for whoever is supported by your favorite organizations.
     
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    You and I fundamentally disagree.
     
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