You can say none if that is what you believe. I'm going to Stepan which is probably something most don't think. Rangers have a history of dealing with the Jackets. I know JD and Torts both love Stepan. I think the Rangers want a legit, number 1 center and move Brassard to number 2 where he is perfect. Johansen is also very good on draws. I'm not so sure they wouldn't do that straight up. However, I think their defenseman are awful. So, that is why I think they would want Yandle in the deal, try to sign him and then you would have to take back a couple pieces to even the money out.
Again, as in the past this team has no depth. Players go down with injuries, there are no adequate replacements. I say it will be a forward, and if you're looking for a high pick & a player...........it's going to be a Zuccarello or a Nash + Personally, I hate playing a would be GM.......there are enough on this board to fill out every team in the NHL. LOL
Not Zucc. He actually tries. I think Kreider has thrown himself into the conversation. I truly believe despite his season, teams would offer a lot for him.
I see no reason to trade Fast. He has 5 G, 6 A. He's a good PK player. Young and cheap. He's a 4th line player. 11 points on the 4th line is solid at this point. Especially with reject Glass on his line now. It's pretty disappointing to watch Hayes. He really sucks this year. Perhaps a trade to Florida. I heard they were shopping Pirri. You probably could get a 2nd round pick along with Pirri or a righty shooting prospect like Hawryluk. Rangers for some reason like soft forwards who are all lefty shots.
You'd be fortunate to get a 2nd and good depth player for either these days. Both are on the decline. The organization got suckered in by both.
The reality is the moves we have made to go for it the past few seasons have not worked out. Not knocking anyone, and neither should this board considering 98% of the posters were on board with the moves when they were made, but the reality is they have not worked and actually been bad moves. That's just being honest. I think resigning Girardi was the right move, and still will play out that way. But no way we should have resigned Staal...no way. And we compounded that by trading for Yandle, who we cannot keep if we have Staal here as well. The Yandle deal has been a disaster. First because with Staal here we cannot keep both. Second because he simply is not the difference maker many of us hoped he'd be. He is a high risk/reward dman who has some nice moves with the puck, but isn't an elite puck mover. Questionable in his own zone. And doesn't like to shoot. For that we gave up DuClair, who the jury is still out on but I think worst case will be a good offensive player AND for some reason we also had to add in a 1st round pick. Yandle is a solid 2nd pair LD IMO, but here he cannot be that with Staal...and he is not worth DuClair and a 1st. Maybe one of those two pieces, although that is questionable still, but certainly not both. The MSL deal was a bad one. The plus is we don't get to the SCF without MSL, but did we really need to deal Cally and a 1st for MSL when he ONLY wanted NY or bust? Steve Y owned Sather given those set of circumstances. We got less than 1.5 years of MSL and for that we dealt a late 1st and Cally. Now it isn't a disaster like the Yandle deal because we did make the SCF, I wanted no part of Cally at 6 mill per, and it was a late 1st and we got back a 2nd, but still a bad deal given the circumstances. Letting Stralman walk for Boyle looks ridiculous now. Same AAV but a couple of extra years. Stralman is 100 times better than Boyle, and we could have brought him back at the same AAV. Terrible decision by Sather. In hindsight we should have paid Prust 2.5 per, or maybe 2 per and he would have taken a little less. Since then we have been chasing crap tough guys, and we are now stuck with AV's toy Glass. And the Glass signing was just a terrible signing. 3 years for this guy...THREE. We could have signed him for one year and he would have taken it. Only reason it isn't the worst move of the group is the AAV isn't that large to be impactful, but since AV refuses to get rid of him, the Glass signing registers near the top. Stalberg has been a bust signing. The Hags deal has added nothing to this team. Had to deal him because no shot we sign him to that deal, but added nothing now. We'll see in the future if the pick becomes a player. The Talbot situation didn't play out like we hoped, Sather may have overplayed his hand at the draft on that one. So the reality is the moves Sather has made the past few seasons to finish this team off have mainly been real bad moves. We were right there and needed a couple of finishing touches, and everything Sather did to add those finishing touches were the wrong choices. Sad but true. Now again I am not ripping Sather or calling him out because I was okay with the moves at the time, as was 98% of the board, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be honest and say they were all bad moves. We are also not getting paid what Sather got paid to make these decisions, and are not privy to the info Sather has when he makes these decisions, so while we were on board, the buck stops with him and he did a poor job finishing this team off. Now we are where we are. To me you have to get Staal to waive that NTC. Otherwise you will deal Yandle and get nowhere near the value we traded to get him. Staal is the move here. Package him with Hayes and try and get something good upfront that can really help us. Then hope McD, G, Yandle, McIlrath, Klein, and Boyle is good enough on D to get is there. And we have Skjei waiting in the wings. This is the sad truth of the situation...now let's see what Gorton can do about it.
Couldn't disagree with that analysis more. I make every single one of those moves every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's gotten this team so close but not quite over the hump yet, which is why there is more work to do. The only thing I'd change is that if Yandle was truly a target for a long time as Sather has said, he should have pulled the trigger on that before resigning Staal. That was unfortunate timing. Staal's deal became a huge, huge problem the second we traded for Yandle. I also don't see in that post the moves we should have made instead, unless we're suggesting that we should have just stayed pat with the current roster so we could all complain that Sather was asleep and not bringing in any difference makers. EDIT: I should make clear I'm talking about the main moves (Yandle, MSL, Stralman, Hagelin). Stalberg was a stupid sign which should never have happened. Same thing times 100000x for Glass.
The ship is sinking on December 21. LOL...chuck. You are down on this team, huh? What a month. Hate to say it but I was telling you last year when they made Yandle deal that wasn't a good deal. He was not needed here. Especially after they resigned Staal to the long term deal. Should've either traded Staal last year or just let him walk in the summer. His deal looks bad now. Now it is up to these players and AV to ride the ship.
I was at the game last night, I didnt get to read the pregame stuff about lines. When I saw Glass trot out there with Zucc I almost threw up my 10 dollar pretzel.
where did you sit? they put that advertising behind the nets and i keep thinking how pissed i'd be if i paid all that money to go to a game and have to stare at a Chase logo the entire time and not be able to see the game. It's getting ridiculous with the advertising.
If you're talking about the ads on the glass (not the board but the glass itself), those are actually virtual ads added for TV audiences only. Same technology that puts the first down marker on the football fields. The glass is clear for the players and fans at the games. Im usually in the middle of section 209, near Rangers bench blue line.
