Why Black Lives Matter movement is bullshit

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  1. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    What about a "dog lives matter" thread? Just lost my dog two weeks ago. A few police dogs have been lost lately. Sly's getting old. Seems fitting.
     
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    I would start one but Sinobas would just make another thread and say it's all bullshit.
     
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    Wrong. You're not even quoting your own statistic right.
     
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    Oh really.

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    Seems like the odds of being unarmed and shot as a black person are 1:15,000 whereas being unarmed and shot as a white person are 1:150,000.

    I'm sure you'll try to explain it away.
     
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    white person are 1:150,000
    Geez! I am surprise to see it is that high! I sure as hell don;t hang out where those guy patrol.
     
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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...e-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all

    “The odds that any given black man will shoot and kill a police officer in any given year is slim to none, about one in a million. The odds for any given white man? One in four million,” he said. “The odds that a black man will be shot and killed by a police officer is about 1 in 60,000. For a white man those odds are 1 in 200,000.”

    (Look at the unarmed chart and you can see the odds are better for white people and much worse for black people).
     
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    Like I said, surprising to find it that high.
     
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    No worries, the police are working hard to lower it for everyone!
     
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    The odds should be the same, regardless of race . That's why black lives matter and anything you do to dilute that message is the real bullshit.
     
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    Agreed that the odds should be the same regardless of race. The real questions, and perhaps the bullshit component that Sinobas should have raised, are why aren't they the same and what can be done to make it better? Implicit in the message that the BLM group has been pushing is that it's all on the police; that there's nothing but institutional racism to account for the disparity. While there's no doubt that there's a component of that in play, there's also no doubt that there are multiple other factors as well. Poverty (which is undoubtedly related to race), gang activity, attitudes of minority communities towards police, family structure, and probably multiple other factors I can't even think of are also involved in the increased risk factors associated with these statistics. It's bullshit for affluent whites to think that there isn't an issue here, but it's also bullshit for the BLM folks to think that it's only the police that need to change in order to make things better.
     
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    I wonder what the numbers are of your break down for gender too. and species.
     
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    Sorry Denny, I don't buy it. All this whine about it doesn't accomplish one fucking thing. You bitch about me diminishing the message, what a friggin joke. You could run 10 boards like this
    and lament the misfortune day and night and accomplish nothing. I also think you could remove the police from all black neighborhoods and more would die.
    There are answers but no one want to hear them, not nearly as entertaining as the whine.

    But I suppose when one doesn't think teaching morality is important, religion has no function.
    Nothing left to do but whine.
     
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    Also, isn't it pretty racist to not include Asian or Latino figures
     
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    What are the violent crime statistics between the races for those same years?
     
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    Irrelevant. Cops shouldn't be shooting unarmed black people at a much higher rate than they do white people.

    Unarmed.
     
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    You didn't say "unarmed" victims. That is a subset over all the victims. So your statement was blatantly FALSE according to your own data. In point of fact, more white people were killed by police than minorities combined, even though they commit less violent crime overall.

    And it's not some random odds, don't give me that bullshit, the majority of time people are shot for acting like thugs and committing crime. A portion of them are totally unnecessary. The difference is that whites don't cry in the street everytime a white thug is killed. Everyone is against excess force and police brutality. But don't try to claim that blacks or minorities are being targeted when less of them are shot while they commit more crime.
     
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    Well who is suppose to referee this morality?
    Sorry guys, you can only shoot white people the rest of this month. But Sarg, they never try to take my weapon. Yeah Sarg, I never had one put the bull rush on me.
    Sarg: Well guys, find a peaceful coffee shop to hangout the rest of the month.
    What about 911 calls in the hood?
    Sarg: You answer the ones you hear. Make sure you don't.
     
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