12 Year Old Boy with fake gun dies after shot by Ohio officer

not really. the child's "toy" gun looked exactly like a real gun and he was brandishing/threatening people with it.

If I went about and did the same shit, cops would be on me in no time. If I reached in/towards my waistband like he did while they were there I'd be fucking dead.

There is no irony.

 

Wow! Not one response from the whiners.

 

You got that right. One big difference though, no one would give a shit.

 

A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.

Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.

Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover.

Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

 

So, the FACT that he was a kid and no actual threat to anybody doesn't enter into it? The cop was WRONG...period. He used lethal force in response to a nonexistent threat. This isn't about race or politics - this is about basic fricking humanity!

 

This Cop used too much humanity, paid the price.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/29/police-albuquerque-officer-shot-in-traffic-stop-has-died.html

Gunned down by this fellow;

 

The threat was very real with the evidence they had at the time.

- The suspect was brandishing a gun and threatening people. NOBODY KNEW the gun was fake because the freaking orange tip was removed (Smart parents there..).
- The suspect was far bigger than your normal 12 year old kid, and honestly with kids now-a-days being the size of adults when they're in their teen years, trying to differentiate that on a 'gun' call is meaningless.
- The suspect reached towards his waistband as soon as the police rolled up. That generally means they are going for something.

Kid defense is moot, because quite often KIDS commit violent crimes. When kids have guns all bets are fucking off in my book, specially ones that have no regard for the law or morals, like waiving or brandishing a gun at people in a park.

Now, in defense of the suspect, the police should have parked many yards away and used extreme caution when confronting the suspect. There was no freaking reason why those two numb skulls had to roll up on the suspect within 10 feet like Starsky and Hutch. For that reason alone I'd punish them. Do I think its a murder charge no. Do I think they should face some other lesser charge, maybe. Do I think they should be removed from the Police force, yes. Do I think that there needs to be some more reform in all of the Police forces across America in regards to using guns, yes. But there is no way in hell I am placing all of this blame on the Police officers.

 

* The orange tip matters because the caller would have seen that, and not called the police at all. Shooting averted.
* I blame the parents for not telling (or instilling values into) their children, who live in an urban environment, to not play around with toy guns that have had their orange tips removed. ESPECIALLY in public places. (When I was a kid, we NEVER played around with fake guns in the public; if we did any Airsoft-like (so guns looked real) stuff, it was always in the forest away from people)

 

That is why calls regarding guns are always so tricky. You never know what you are going to get from one to the next.

 

You nailed it in the last paragraph. From a training/tactical standpoint the behavior of the cops was looney.

 

Naw, you boys would want twenty years in the pen. The cop has to be intuitive and fast enough to only shoot when the bad guy has the gun pointed at him but hasn't shot yet.
Then he needs to beg for the liberal forgiveness with heart felt sincerity and pledge to do only good works for the underprivileged the rest of his life.

Of course he should be more than able to disarm the knife wielder with a stern gaze.

 

Lord that was and ignorant post. I hope you are only temporarily impaired.

 

I think you're missing my point...

I never was arguing that the police were not at fault. I was just arguing that I do not believe it was murder or a serious charge dancing around that. If you read my posts above you will see that.

I argued that it was mutual fault incident, where the suspect was just as at fault as the police. The suspect was threatening numerous people with a replica gun in a park. There could have been more callers, I don't know, do you? Either way, the caller wasn't lying because guess what, they found a gun on the suspect. Sure it happened to be fake, but nobody knew that because it was a replica, or replica-like (due to the tip being removed). I also state that the police are at fault too for driving up way to close to the suspect. They should have approached from 100+ yards away.

 

What's amazing to me is that there are many people in this thread that don't trust anything that the government says.

Unless, it has to do with police shooting unarmed citizens... Then they believe everything the government has to say...

 

They shot him from the car... The police did a drive by on a 12 year old kid...

 

I was going to ask if this is the one where they rolled up gangster style and wasted the kid but this answers that. I've watched so many I can't keep them straight now.

I was just reading about a thing here in Henderson where a k9 officer let his dog in an SUV with an infant in it. The dog bit/mauled her arm.

I just skipped the video because I don't even want to see it.

I'm just numb to it now.