I guess I am watching a different game from every single one of you guys. TB has FIVE PP's and only has 15 shots in the game so far. We are playing well...stay out of the f'ing box.
Look at where both goals came from though. Right in front of the net. No one able to clear the crease. If only we had a defenseman that could do that.........
The coach must be held responsible for the defensive zone mistakes...interesting. I would actually hold the players accountable, but that's me. If I have an issue with AV it is playing Glass and not scratching guys who clearly deserve to be scratched. Finally sat Hayes tonight.
So coaches only coach offense. Cool to know. Never knew that. I could've sworn that defense has to be coached as well.
My god all you guys do is bitch and whine over and over again. We are in a tie game and it is post after post of the team sucks...the coach sucks...this player sucks...that player sucks...on and on.
I don't care if it is O or D...players need to be held accountable. Coaches need to be held accountable. The fact that this team has been terrible in their own zone this season isn't just a coach issue...it is the players and the coaches. And now we lead and all you guys do is whine...LOL.
We're dominating 5 v 5 but the PK has been awful because THEY DON'T clear the front of the net. That's part of coaching, you know since the COACH sets the lines and determines who is scratched. I don't get you. At some point it IS ok for you to criticize the coach and say he needs to adjust and not be given a pass. I'm not saying he needs to get fired, but he needs to be held accountable by some of you in here. This whole "he's made Stanley Cup finals before" defense means nothing. After a while, EVERY coach has to adjust when teams adjust to them. I'm still yet to see AV do that. By you all saying AV has made Cup finals before, well than Torts must be even better and more amazing than AV because he's won a Cup, right? Or does it not work that way for Torts and only coaches you like?
I'VE NEVER CLAIMED IT WASNT PLAYERS! But that it is the first time you have legit put ANY blame towards the coaches. It's obviously the players fault. But coaches need to COACH THE MISTAKES OUT and they haven't yet this season. THAT is my issue. We all have seen the same mistakes in our own zone all year long with no adjustment. We've been good tonight so far 5v5 with just a few mistakes which is a huge improvement.
Okay...coaching issue. AV should be fired. Let's run him out of town like we did with Torts. I told you my issues with AV, but I don't want him castrated so that means I am not holding him accountable and giving him a pass...LOL. You have your opinion 94...all good.
This is the first game I've seen since this slump started that in the defensive zone they haven't all been staring at the puck and allowing a guy to skate in to the slot undefended and wide open for a shot. (Hope I didn't jinx that haha)
Take a look about 5 or 6 posts up 94 and I told you my issues with AV, but I guess that is the first time I have put any blame on the coaches. This is a nonsense waste of time 94. I think it is all of the above. Now I am done with this.
Outside of benching people there's really not much Vigneault can do about the coverage issues, it's the players being lax or lazy.
I am with you 71...and that is my issue with AV...hasn't scratched guys when they deserved it. Good to see him sit Hayes tonight. BTW...another "fan favorite" we all wanted gone has been playing really well. Give Boyle some credit. He has been on his game the past couple of weeks.
Once again, I didn't say AV should be fired. There's other ways of being held accountable, such as a GM or president saying they're not happy with how the team is playing, etc. I hate the fact that if you criticize AV in here all of a sudden it's blasphemy and you're not a fan. This has been a bad season for our players and coaching staff so far this year. The players have been gliding around, not giving their all not playing with any urgency and have fallen asleep time after time in their own zone watching the puck. The coaches have not done a good job at finding a way to motivate the players this year and coach the mistakes out of them. It's just about the halfway point, so it's safe to say that this is the team we are, a team that has a lot of potential, but for some reason can't reach it just yet. I like the scratching of Hayes and I think AV should scratch Kreider, Staal, Girardi, and whomever else is half assing it out there, not just a young guy. Veterans sometimes need those wake up calls too and it's a good quick way to send a message and hope to see a change quickly in a veteran.
Staal should be given some time off, either to get himself mentally together or nursing an injury..whatever.
Boyle has been great, and is it any coincidence it's when his job and playing time are on the line because of Dylan? I don't think so. I think it's motivated him to step up his game and that's why AV should do the same with Staal. Sit him for a few games and see if it motivates him to step up his game.
We agree there 94. AV needs to put some of these guys on notice and take away their PT if they don't get their sh*t together. That's an issue I have with AV.
