Why Black Lives Matter movement is bullshit

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  1. dviss1

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    I lived in Southwest Portland for 8 years with no police contact at all. The minute I move out too conservative Milwaukie Oregon in one year I'm pulled over 7 times with no ticket. You need to go look up the stop-and-frisk numbers. They speak for themselves.
     
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    2 words...

    Fruitvale Station
     
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    You need to read my posts, man. Like read them a few times.

    I'm not disputing that racism is alive and well. The fact that some of you seem to make this situation all about racism is a little frightening.
     
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    Not sure why you feel my post was directed toward you.

    I will say though the fact that you don't see racism as a part of the situation is more frightening me.
     
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    Well I'm really thankful of the BLM. They have made some serious headway in a very short period of time. Headway that will not only help Blacks, but also help Whites, Latinos, Asians, everyone. As police are held more accountable for their actions, their practices will improve and their violence against all non-armed citizens will be improved. Over time, as police actions become more justifiable then their respect level will improve and they will also reap the rewards of better practices. As more departments wear body cameras, use less-than-lethal methods, and don't shoot the unarmed, trust will be restored. Over time at least. It's going to take a lot of work.

    We need to continue pushing these issues, but also work diligently towards abolishing the private prison systems and legalize drugs, or at least lessen the jail time attached to these crimes. We need to stop incentivizing prosecution over rehabilitation.

    I believe that racism is involved, but even if you don't, realize that this movement is helping make abusive authority more accountable and helping to protect people who don't deserve to die.
     
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    Straw man? Dude my whole argument was based on your bullshit stat you positioned yourself with. That was, you said all cops do not go to jail when they kill people.

    I said that was BS. And I am right because cops DO go to jail when they shoot people.

    Now if you don't think there is enough of them going, then that is what you should have said in the beginning and not pushed some BS statement like you did
     
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    You are dreaming Further. There can be no good coming for anyone marching around chanting "Pigs in a blanket, Fry em like bacon", or "What do you want? Dead Cops! When do you want it? Now" Look at the picture in the front of the video in the first post this thread. See the hate of the face of the black guy! He is counting coup confronting the cops. I bet you a dollar to a donut that the cop is thinking, "Fuck! I'd rather not be here!" But if he does shoot the fucker, it will be justified.

    None of this pitiful behavior is going to bring any change. I have not even heard of one proposal that would make a systematic change in the system.
    Let me ask you, what in all this confrontation do you see that will make the job better for the cop? 124 were killed in 2014, up 24 percent from 2013 and I bet it is way up for 2015.
    Do you think more fear in the ranks of the police will make them shoot less people? I don't.
     
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    Exactly. That is why their movement is cancer. Sitting there advocating more death with their bullshit chants. Getting into people's faces if they don't join in. Basically a damn mob.
     
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    Well, I don't know but I think it is highly likely that someone called the police because they felt the guy was causing a disturbance. I don't think the fellow should have been shot, You don't even think he should be tased. So how should the cops handle the guy without exposing themselves to unreasonable risk?
     
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    Maybe I shouldn't share this, but every time I see the video of the dude out in the street in Chicago, waving the shiv, and the cop drills him, brings back memories.
    Anyone ever had a Black man whip out a shiv and threaten to "cut you from pecker to chin"? God damn! It will start your engine! Might even make your finger twitchy.
     
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    Black people are a hell of a lot more racist than whites. Black people spew racism then fall back and want to play the victim for stuff that took place hundreds of years ago. White people were slaves too, but you don't see them using that as an excuse for being a loser like blacks do.
     
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    The BLM movement is corrupted by their own racism. So instead of being about being against police brutality, all they care about is when a white officer shoots a black person, it ties back to their hatred of whites. Those are the only incidents they care about, and the only ones the media gets carried away with. And in many of the cases, the black actually was armed and/or acting in a threatening manner.
     
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    Dviss, let me ask you this, do you think we should have a white lives matter group for white victims, a asian lives matter for asians, hispanic lives matter for latinos.... separate advocacy groups for each race?
     
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    The BLM is already causing some PD's to adopt changes like institute body cameras and others to make their shooting review processes more transparent. They have forced this as a major topic of conversation amongst Democrat Presidential hopefuls, and I'm guessing this issue will also be debated in the general election. Change doesn't all happen in an instance, but this movement does see to be making progress.

    You could be right in the short term that this will lead to animosity that could increase fatal shootings, I'm not sure. However, I do fully believe that as these new practices become implemented the shootings of unarmed civilians will reduce. We can check back in 2020, but this will take time.
     
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    Your posts show a clear lack of reading comprehension.

    That's even more frightening. No point in carrying on the conversation.
     
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    What the good is a better view of the police executing screwed up procedures? When they perform the as guided or as instructed, they will be found not guilty no matter how good the view.


    God help our nation when Washington especially a Democrat runs every police department in the country. I do wish they could stick to the role carved out in the consitution to keep them occupied.

    Democrats run Baltimore, Detroit, LA, NY, Cleveland and damn near every City in America already. We sure as hell don't need one doing it by remote control from a far.
     
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    Ha! There seems to be a lack of experience here. Gosh that is surprising.
     
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    The whole point is that as the process becomes more transparent, there will be more pressure to do the right thing and not protect bad cops just because they are cops. Transparency over time improves the situation.
     
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    Seems like the father of this lad ought to snatch his ass out of harms way and send him straight home. Might save him from getting his carcass ventilated.
    No fucking way I let a grandson do this shit. Noway, got to have a better plan than stupid.
     
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