Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

Looks like bacon to me.

 

That article doesn't tell the reader what the issues are. Here's background.

http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/us/oregon-ranching-case-sparks-anti-government-sentim/npwLj/

 

That's in the middle of bumfuck nowhere desert. Let them freeze to death.

 

I don't agree with their stance, and eventually when they are overtaken I hope that nobody on either side is injured. But listening to them, I feel for them. They may be misguided but they are well intentioned.

 

Had a friend who was into the whole militia/21st century anarchist thing. He was anything but a racist redneck . Just a ex-soldier who was a really pissed off at the repealing of the Basic Rights this country was founded upon. Yeah. I'm sure a lot if them are farmers who "Talk to God on a one way radio" though. But some of them have a different take on issues we don't even think about. We shouldn't dismiss them as unpassionate and undetermined.

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So far in the thread, no one has succeeded in justifying a farmer serving 1 year in prison for doing controlled burning on property he has leased for many years, then a judge resentencing him under a terrorist law to 4 years and sending the "arsonist" back to prison.

Suggestion: Use the tricks of the media. Associate the Hammonds of Oregon, who pay their rent to the government and want the militia to stay out of it, with Ammon Bundy of California, who refuses to pay rent. Use the term "right-wing" liberally. Write "Hammond" near "Ammon" a lot to confuse the reader that Hammond opposes paying his rent.

 

If they were black would they be "misguided" and "well intentioned"?

They took over Federal Land with guns... Looks like terrorism to me..

 

It has been said that the burn was done to cover up poaching. Not sure how much truth is in that statement but if it is true...

 

Yes, I would have said the exact same thing if they were Black. Quite frankly, I am more fearful of militia folk than I am of any Black organization I know of that's not religion affiliated, so I would most likely be more likely to give a Black group the benefit of the doubt and listen to what they are saying. Still doesn't mean I would agree with them.

 

I'm not really asking what you'd say. I know where you stand. I'm just wondering how the media would report it.

 

I'm not sure, there is a difference between FOX, NY Times, CNN, Huff Post and NBC. But a big reason why some are listing is that the takeover was of an empty building and didn't harm any individuals. And they are tapping into a sentiment that is felt by many in rural areas, that the federal government is overstepping their bounds and infringing on the individuals rights to try and make a decent life for themselves. I think they are totally fucking wrong in this case, but you have to realize that the issues are compelling. My guess is if a group of Black people took over an empty building in the middle of nowhere and weren't encroaching on others, that people would likewise listen. Different people, but a similar amount. It would depend on the issue of course.

 

Just like I said about the BLM movement. I appreciate the cause but they are going about it the complete wrong way and I do not agree with these militia men doing this shit nor support them. Better ways to protest and demand action (for both groups)