Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters

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  1. MarAzul

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    Looks like you might be right! Something not right. I just watched this story on the news. What's this? The fire spread from their property to the federal land? They get jail time for this??
    They served the time. Then the Feds appeal the sentence, so they get more time? A whole lot more time? ummm, this ain't right!

    Not sure those Bundy dudes will help though.
     
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    5th amendment

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
     
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    So if lefties protest, take over a building and threaten to stay there till the end of time, you're OK with it?
     
  4. MarAzul

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    Yep, just what I was thinking. Serving the time then appeal say more???? Smells like bite two to me. Crap, will the Feds go for three? This ain't right!!
     
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    Pretty sure the state agrees with the Federal position here.

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    Yes?
     
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    When I was a young whippersnapper, they called those things "sit ins."
     
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    Pretty sure the Federal position should be to mind its own business.
     
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    Nobody said they shouldn't protest.

    Speaking of straw men...

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    It is minding it's own business. They are occupying Federal property.

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    sit ins kind of imply peaceful people, and not using guns or threatening behaviors.
     
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    Y'all Qaeda follows a strict interpretation of Shania law.
     
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    What You Need To Know About The Oregon Militia Standoff

    During a rally in Oregon for two ranchers convicted of arson, a group of anti-government protesters initiated the armed occupation of a federal building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Here is everything you need to know about the militia standoff:
    Where is the standoff taking place?

    The headquarters of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, future capital of the Free Republic Of America.

    How did this start?
    Protests began after local ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond were ordered to return to prison because their time already served for committing arson did not meet minimum-sentencing laws, which, to be fair, often do more harm than good and are certainly worthy of reevaluation.

    Who are the ranchers protesting against?
    Gub’ment.

    Why did the ranchers take over the federal wildlife building?
    You big-city folk wouldn’t understand.


    How many people are involved in the standoff?
    An estimated 150 militia members who would otherwise be armed and spouting anti-government rhetoric somewhere else.

    What are the protesters’ demands?
    $5 million in cash and safe passage to 1874.

    Is there legitimacy to their complaints?
    Compared to the plight of the Oregon’s nearly extinct short-tailed albatross? Absolutely not.

    Who is Ammon Bundy?
    An American patriot who is currently living inside a government wildlife building in the middle of Oregon to defend ranchers who burned down 130 acres of federal land.

    Are the protesters violent?
    They have vowed to only seek a peaceful overthrow of the entire U.S. federal government.

    How long are they planning to stay?
    As long as their supply of whiskey and bison chili lasts.

    What is the militia ultimately hoping to achieve?
    Garner enough attention over next few weeks to be brought onstage during rally for a low-polling GOP candidate.

    Is the protest going to work?
    Nope.
     
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    Actually you did complain and thumped your chest about the locals complaining.

    Not strawman.
     
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    It is public property. They pay taxes, they own it. If you want to occupy it, don't let the door hit you in the fanny on your way there.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I was there at the time. The protesters threw rocks and baggies full of feces at the cops, among other things.

    But those guys look like they have a club.

    (1968 Chicago Democratic Convention)
     
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    Has anyone ever heard of the government appealing a conviction and sentence that has been served, to get a longer sentence?
    Is this a first? Obama set a new first?
     
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    In the case of mass murderers, the prosecution sometimes only charges against some of the murders so he has a few in reserve in case the trial doesn't go well.

    But that's not charging the person with the same crime.
     
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    Did I complain about protesting? No, I did not.
    Did I complain about an armed takeover of a public building? Perhaps so.
    Did I 'thump my chest' about the locals? No, I did not. I did mention it though.

    barfo
     

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