Vonleh should play more

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,064
    Likes Received:
    57,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Except ZBO was light years ahead at this point. Zach was drafted at 20 years old and by his third year he was averaging 20 points and 10.5 rebounds per game. I remember Zach just dominating in the summer leagues. He was an extremely polished post player, even at 19-20 years old.

    Vonleh and Zach might have some similar features, but in terms of talent, Zach was a really special player. He just had a 10 cent head.
     
  2. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    10,729
    Likes Received:
    7,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Zach oozed talent. Vonleh currently has very little talent at anything other than defensive positioning. His touch around the basket is awful.
     
  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    29,160
    Likes Received:
    9,840
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    He could be what McDyess was for Detroit.

    A great post defender with a decent mid-range shot.
     
    Orion Bailey and HailBlazers like this.
  4. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    22,645
    Likes Received:
    34,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Investment Management / Financial Planner
    Location:
    Lake Oswego
    Vonleh with more total points/rebounds than Plumlee so far....in half the minutes.
     
  5. HolyBackboard

    HolyBackboard 2 Hot 2 Stop It

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    718
    Likes Received:
    1,589
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Rip City
    After one of Vonleh's best games of the season, he sees the floor for a total of 12 minutes tonight? Stotts isn't a bad coach, but his rotations are bunk.
     
    TBpup likes this.
  6. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,564
    Likes Received:
    35,850
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I thought Vonleh looked good tonight. He's just not a guy you put your offense around yet, and that's okay... it'll come. I saw a couple flashes of what he can do around the rim tonight. Not worried.
     
    TBpup likes this.
  7. Trackjack

    Trackjack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,914
    Likes Received:
    1,910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Von is the 5th option on the starting offense so if does score that a plus. Rebounding actually pretty good for the minutes he play. Pretty good defender and Stotts bringing him on slowly on the offense I see that will increase next year.
     
    Strenuus, riverman and Orion Bailey like this.
  8. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,577
    Likes Received:
    38,667
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Why did some guys think he was a future all star? It baffles me
     
    Tunchi likes this.
  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    That is so hard to believe, I ran a spreadsheet. In season rebounds + points, Plumlee is 4th on the team and Vonleh 10th.
    In season (rebounds + points) per minute, Plumlee is 5th and Vonleh 12th. You must have meant for the game in progress.
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    Is he our best inside defender? He's way better than Meyers at guarding 4s.

    Offense clearly not there yet, but his defense looks good.
     
  11. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    21,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He did. And Vonleh had a post move in this game that was better than anything Ive seen any Blazer do in years....

    Vonleh was also injured the bulk of his first season? Comparing to a healthy Zbo at the same stage is also not fair. This is really Vonleh's true rookie season.

    My eyes say Vonleh can learn, has great speed and quickness, has a knack for defensive positioning. The kid will grow and become a starter... a REAL starter. All star? Not sure yet.
     
  12. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    68,332
    Likes Received:
    67,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    after 9 years with Lamarcus, it's an adjustment watching a team where the offense isn't power forward driven..I like that Vonleh is clogging lanes and rebounding. Our bigs are not ever going to be Lamarcus type players
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  13. Tunchi

    Tunchi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I HAVE NO CLUE.. LOL Ppl love Vonleh around here..
     
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,064
    Likes Received:
    57,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Maybe because he looked really good in summer league?
     
    chzbrgr and Orion Bailey like this.
  15. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    22,645
    Likes Received:
    34,632
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Investment Management / Financial Planner
    Location:
    Lake Oswego
    Yes, it was for that game in progress. He was great in the 4th quarter against the Nuggets and then started off with a ton of energy, 4 quick rebounds and a RARE BLAZER low post bucket....then gets to play 6 minutes the rest of the game. That is what is baffling. Especially when Gasol and Zach were in there at the same time and Stotts was running Dame, CJ, Crabbe and Henderson out there with either Davis/Plums/Leonard. Gee...wonder why Zach went bonkers?
     
  16. Tunchi

    Tunchi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Tons of scrubs look good in summer league, but hey thats fair he teased you guys for a second but teams just dont trade top 10 draft picks in one year. Even garbage teams when they make that trade are usually right like the kings did with Trob
     
  17. Strenuus

    Strenuus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    50,564
    Likes Received:
    35,850
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are wording this as to say he turned into Greg Oden and he's done.

    The word you were looking for is "does".

    And he has potential. And look at what I wrote for him. I said he looks good for very tiny things. Improvements. That's all we're looking for from him this season. It took Meyers 3 years before he even did some small things well. At least Vonleh has shown very small improvement through a few games. and dont look at his PPG or some crap, that's not where his improvement lies.

    (Notice I never used the term "he's 21").
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,064
    Likes Received:
    57,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    How many big men look good in summer league? Almost none. It's a league of guards and forwards who chuck long jumpers. Hardly anyone runs plays for big guys.

    And the Kings traded TRob for a bunch of scrubs. The Hornets traded Vonleh and Hendo for a starting small forward in his prime. That's a little different.
     
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,577
    Likes Received:
    38,667
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    So you're gonna use him playing better than a rookie Meyers Leonard as a barometer for him being a future all star? Haha

    And every 20 year old well show some flashes of what they can do. So he hasn't played incompetent the last couple games, that's where the improvement is.. Still doesn't mean he'll come close to being an all star
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2016
  20. Tunchi

    Tunchi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They just like him because he was traded for a somewhat productive SF and they don't want to feel like we got screwed in that trade..
     
    BonesJones likes this.

Share This Page