2016 NBA Draft mega thread

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    Givony's comments about Skal are valid. He's not ready for this stage, but his skill is undeniable. Thinks he will have less pressure in the NBA than at Kentucky and will get drafted in the lotto.

    Buuut one thing he mentioned (kinda in passing) that sticks out to me and have me absolutely against drafting him: Skal had a stress fracture in his back in HS. A 7 footer with even an acute back issue before age of 18 -- don't touch with a ten foot pole. He's off my big board.
     
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    Agreed - don't even consider him.
     
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    I would really like Sabonis but it sounds like the Blazers are committed on making the playoffs this year. I understand though, Every year there are guys coming out of the draft that would look good playing on your favorite team. You just can't get them all.
     
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    I wouldn't pick him. The track record of goats in the NBA isn't really good.
     
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    Chris Webber did alright for himself.
     
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    Wow. I thought he was human.
     
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    Sure was, but a bit of a scapegoat. It was a ba-a-a-a-a-ad joke...
     
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    Right now he is listed #27 on draft express' mock. That we could trade for......

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2016/
     
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    Just a random exercise, a look at with big men (mostly C or guys who play close to the basket) drafted early in the lotto, just looking at top 6.

    2007: Oden (1), Horford (3)
    2008: none
    2009: Thabeet (2)
    2010: Cousins (5), Udoh (6)
    2011: Kanter (3), Tristan Thompson (4), Valanciunas (5), Vesely (6), and for good measure, Biyombo (7)
    2012: Davis(1), TRob (5)
    2013: Cody Zeller (4), Len (5), Noel (6)
    2014: Embiid (3)
    2015: KAT (1), Okafor (3), Porzingis (4), Cauley-Stein (6)

    Some definite talent here, but a LOT of busts. What this is telling me is that if you're looking for a big man in the draft, don't draft one early in the draft unless he is a can't miss prospect who has a clear injury history. 2015 might be the best of that lot.

    Rabb, Bender, Poeltl, Skal... hmm, just beware.
     
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    I think I've come to the conclusion that unless the player is an obvious, can't miss, easy transition to the NBA that I'm against drafting PFs altogether. It's the easiest position in the NBA to fill, and you can just sign a journeyman to an MLE contract rather than spending a lottery pick and several years to develop them. PFs should be signed as free agents or traded for, but rarely drafted.
    Cs are still tricky, because a dominant C in the right system can change the landscape of the NBA.
    SGs and SFs are where effort should be focused. Obviously we're looking pretty nice as SG right now, so SF is the biggest need. But I certainly wouldn't pass over a SG if Neil thought he was going to be dynamite!
     
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    It's so difficult to predict how a big guy will adapt to the NBA. They go from being guarded by a bunch of short white guys to being guarded by guys like Gobert, Jordan, etc. It's a big adjustment.
     
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    What do you guys think of Valentine out of Michigan State? He is like the 2-3 version of Draymond. Obviously not a guy you take in the top 6-14, but would be worth drafting late teens or early 20s if we can get a pick off of someone's salary dump.
     
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    It was a big adjustment for Gobert and DJordan just to become serviceable NBA players...
     
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    How many centers even walk in and are NBA ready right away? Yao? Shaq? David Robinson? Patrick Ewing? It usually takes a while for them to adapt to the physical style of play and to how the refs call the game.
     
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    It's rare, for sure. I'm just saying, it's ironic that the two you picked as examples were considered extra raw coming in. It just goes to show how hard it is to project the center position. You can't teach size, and you can't project it, either.
     
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    Is a center going to get us to the next level? I mean the whole idea of tanking is to get that missing piece. Is a center really in the discussion? Hopefully we are not stuck with that dilemma. I say focus on the wings. Centers are for after the lottery. You can find a serviceable Euro somewhere.
     
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