it perhaps answers the question but my "opinion" it that its not a good answer. Vonleh is getting regular minutes and frankly not doing much with them, he not horrible but he has a LONG way to go. I hope at some point this season Cliff gets a reasonable chance, if Vonleh was showing some real improvement I would not have brought this up, nor would I have if Meyers was playing better. I mean at some point you need to "earn" the minutes given - has Vonleh really done that enough not to give Cliff a chance? and we are now at the season's half way point
We disagree about Vonleh...I trust the coaches decision. This reminds me of folks clamouring for TRob to play more when he wasn't ready either. Vonleh is defending better than Leonard right now and we need defense at the 4 with the starting unit. I think Cliff is a future piece but he's not cracking the rotation this season...in my opinion, it's a good answer but a predictable question about a bottom of the bench project guy. We do this every season. Victor Claver was more NBA ready than Cliff is.
This is one of the few places where I think "realism" masquerades as "optimism" . Usually it imitates "Pessimism".
If you mean Alexander is already so good in practice that they are hiding him to help us tank is realism then call me optimistic. I just know he is the next Hakeem.
He is injury-prone. As a college freshman, he missed the preseason, then the last 8 games. Then on May 31 before any NBA teams could see him, he suffered a right knee injury in a Laker workout. After Summer League, he missed the entire Blazer preseason due to his knee. He then missed the first 6 regular season games due to minor torn cartilage issues. EVERY DETAIL you've ever wanted to know about his high school career is here. NOTHING has been left out. Prepare to read a BOOK about what he did in high school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Alexander DID YOU KNOW...When little Cliff was 5, his father declared for the 2001 NBA draft? He went undrafted, like his son 14 years later. Then the father played in the D-League...maybe Cliff has seen some D-League games. STRANGE BUT TRUE.
What I mean is "realists" typically are there to bring people down to earth from their delusional optimism.... Example saying a team or a player is better than he actually is. In the case of this forum as I have watched it evolved essentially over 15 years The pessimism is so overbearing that "realists" come in and try to bring up the Optimism level so people can pull their heads out of the sand. Example being that Cliff isn't playing because he is buried on the depth chart. Ok that's saying we have better players therefore an optimistic approach as compared to saying "he must be a terrible wast of a roster spot", which is a negative angle. The reality is we honestly don't know beyond a few glipses if he is good or bad and for most 20 year old's in their 1st appearances you can't tell be cause adrenaline takes over and they get the yips.
So he's awesome? That's what I said. As to your actual point. Kingspeed isn't even real. He's a computer simulation.
Whether he has shown much or not I will say that this is one guy who I don't mind waiting on and giving lots of time to. He was rated as equal or better than Okafor as High School Senior.
I think we need to use the Meyers principle with Alexander and Vonleh. They should get as much time as Meyers has had to show what they can do. My guess is they'll both jump over that low bar.
I think we just need to see him get a significant stretch of games. He didn't even get that at Kansas. They gave us T-Rob. I'd be happy if he becomes that level of player. But with the team still in the playoff hunt; the chances are likely we won't see much. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk
Yep. Because Cliff is a 20 year old rookie that barely played college ball and isnt ready.. its all on Stotts... yep.... *smacks forehead....* Um, Ive seen improvement in Crabbe, Vonleh... Even Aminu (more recently) When you have so many new players, do you really expect ALL of them to take leaps and strides in improvement? Stotts is fine... and doing what he needs to do to figure out his players.... and compared to preseason predictions.... he has been mostly successful.
How about maybe he just sucks and this question can be asked for all the last player on the depth chart of an nba roster lol
ooookay... you want to clarify and dissect then? FYI, I wear my homerism on the cuff of my sleeve and ive never tried to hide it. With that said, Im trying to be as impartial as possible. If you havent seen any improvement in Crabbe, Vonleh and even Aminu(as of late) from last year and the beginning of the season until now... well then I think its time for you to visit the optician.
Yep, I really have noticed him. Doing real well, probably should be starting at SF. But it doesn't happen.
You havewnt seen some progress in Vonleh as of late? I think he had his best game of the season against Utah. Again, He is much like Cliffy. Very young with serious potential upside. Vonlehs D now is much better than the first couple weeks in my opinion, but that could possible be because of the consistency pf minutes by being in the starting line up. He has taken a few more open distance shots than he used to ( always dribbled into traffic or just passed the ball) And when he doesnt put the ball on the floor and goes to the hoop he shows terrific footspeed and agility. Again, give him time to develop, but I am seeing the development. It just isnt happening fast enough for some of us obviously.
