Trade Thread

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by mrmel29, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. chuckd3534

    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    So bottom line is I disagree with you guys on Nash. I would make that move during the summer not at the trade DL. And if we make it at the trade DL I do not think we have any shot to win a cup, even if I do think it could be two steps forward after the summer. Same with Gabby...which is the only season we have not made the ECF at leats the past 4 playoff seasons.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Enough with the summer deals. This team has ZERO CHANCE of beating the Craps IMO. NONE. Time to change this roster. Now. Big time. No more waiting.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    And I also do not agree with dump on his beloved Caps. They are the best team in the East CLEARLY, but no way do I say we cannot beat them oh well pack it in. Doesn't work that way in hockey.

    How many Pres trophy winners win the SC? How many 1 seeds win the SC?

    Last season you said all along I don't give a s*it about the Pres trophy, and I agreed 100%. Now we act as if the Caps cannot be beaten by us? I don't buy it at all. YES I would favor them and it will not be easy to beat them, but I won't act like it cannot happen.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    You are ridiculous on the Caps dump....

    Last year the Pres trophy means nothing. This year the Caps are unbeatable.

    I will agree with one thing...if you feel we have zero shot to win a cup this season, yeah deal Nash at the DL. I agree with you there...why not. But I disagree that we have no shot this season, so I do not deal Nash at the DL unless we get a great haul, then all bets are off of course.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Let's not lose focus of potential UFA's this summer. Stamkos, E. Staal. Byfuglien, Backes, Ladd, Boedker, Hudler, Lucic, Okposo. There are some really good ones out there this year.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Yes...I would love to be in on some of those guys. I am with you 100% there dump.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    No, you're a fucking blind homer on the Rangers. The Craps have bent this team over and banged them up the ass this season. The first game the Rangers beat them they were completely dominated by the Craps. It was nothing but dumb luck they won. Even last game the Craps slept walk through the 3rd period and they were missing their best defenseman. You're about the only fan who still can't admit this team sucks as far as being built for the playoffs.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Here is my bottom line, if the Rangers deal Nash at the trade DL it means they are focusing on this summer/next year, because I don't think dealing Nash would make us better the day we deal him in season. We could take two steps forward in the summer and be better, but this season I don't see it.

    That's my opinion.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...blind homer saying the Caps CLEARLY are the best team in the East and CLEARLY would be favored over us, and rightfully so, but in the NHL playoffs anything can happen, so I think we would at least have a punchers chance. Yeah crazy homer...we have ZERO SHOT like you said...LOL. Might as well cancel the playoffs and hand the Caps the cup now...:). One seeds and Pres trophy winners usually win the cup every season right???

    And so lucky we beat them last season. We clearly should have lost and they were much better.

    Sounds good dump.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    This team has shown nothing this entire season to give any fan of this team any hope they can go on a playoff run. The defense has left guys open in front of the crease all season, so much so that Hank is now yelling at them. Girardi continues to play like a minor league player. Your 8 million dollar wing never plays like a power forward and has 12 goals. Your young power forward is dumb as dog shit and has 7 goals and shows no signs of turning it around. Your f'n coach once again destroys any offense on the 4th line by playing crappy Tanner Glass. Your third line center Hayes is an embarrassment on draws and turns the puck over constantly and rarely puts up any points. You're number one center plays like an assclown now that he has his big contract and is on pace for 40 points.

    You have the nerve to compare this sorry ass team to the Capitals? Puhlease. Typical of you to look at past years which mean jack shit instead of the team you see before you. The rest of the board has been calling you dense for over a month. You still don't get it. I'll be laughing my ass off if Gorton actually grows some balls and tears apart this majorly flawed team.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Actually you mentioned we were lucky to win last season. I only mentioned one seeds and Pres trophy winners very rarely win cups.

    You have been saying this team has major flaws and isn't built for the playoffs for years dump, is what it is.

    You have your opinion, and I respect that. We simply do not agree. We agree on some of it, clearly we need to improve and clearly we are not near a SC favorite this season and clearly right now it would be a big upset for us to win a cup this season, but I do not think we need this major overhaul tear the whole team down and start over. That is where we disagree.

    We'll see what happens.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    It's pointless trying to explain things to you. You can't grasp the fact the window on this team the way it is constructed has closed. It's obvious to this fan base. It's obvious to Hank who has shown more frustration this season than he has in the previous 5.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Okay...so break the whole thing down and start again with Hank 34 years old. I got your opinion...we disagree. You said the same thing each of the past 3 seasons dump, so nothing new there.

    Again...all good. We agree to disagree.
     
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    The Rangers should be 2-1 against the Caps so far this year, lucky bounces go both ways. Klein's softness cost them last game with 5 seconds left after Girardi's setup pass to Ovie gave the Caps the early lead. The Rangers have played well against the Caps in postseason, bring them on. If the Rangers can trade their Captain at the deadline Nash and his 12 goals (2 open net) shouldn't be immune. I agree that he can help another team, the Rangers can use the cap space for the future.
     
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    Rangers have been badly outplayed by the Craps this season. They should be 0-3. They were completely dominated in the game they won 5-2. Craps hit like 4 posts and Holtby sucked that game. Fluke. Even last game Craps basically owned them for 2 periods then just fell asleep. I mean, you have to be realistic. The Rangers don't match up with the Craps at all. They also don't match up with the Islanders and Bruins all that well either. Basically, any big team with skill pretty much dominates them time of possession wise. Stand by what I've said for months. This team needs major changes.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I agree on the Caps. I liked them a lot last year also. And this summer I said they would be the best team in the East and win the Met, but anything can happen in the NHL playoffs. Today the Caps look like a dominant team, but who knows what the situation will be in round 2 of the playoffs if we get there.

    Fun part is we are getting to the point where the games start to mean more. Trade DL is 6 weeks from tomorrow...fun time now. Who knows what will happen.
     
  17. mrmel29

    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    I agree time to see what kind of bidding war we can get other gm's involved in to acquire nash and move him before his next concussion. He's not the same player he was and the cap relief will be worth it. Girardi needs to go somehow now or on ltir so big mac can get into the line up and strengthen the defense and give us some toughness back there. There is no way to keep yandle and besides with the way AV is using him what does it matter. A third pair d-man that gets 20 seconds on the 2nd PP. LMAO. Hope Gorton is primed to take some action and looking for him to work the same magic he did with some of his bruin trades
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Moving Stepan might not be the worst thing in the world if they get a center back in the Yandle deal. He has another stupid NTC that kicks in after this year.
     
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    They should look at Boeddker.
     
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    Lets not forget the Caps has 121 points in 2009-10 and then lost in the first round of the playoffs. You never know what will happen with injuries and other factors so in reality you have no idea what can take place in the playoffs. I'm not saying the Rangers will do X, Y or Z but if you're just going to anoint a team now then why even bother playing any further?
     
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