OT Do you think getting rid of the lottery would benefit the NBA?

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Do you think getting rid of the lottery would benefit the NBA?

  1. Yes, the worst team should always pick first.

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  2. No, it would promote even more tanking.

    21 vote(s)
    91.3%
  1. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    I think it should be a real discussion.
     
  2. MarAzul

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    I agree. Let the salary cap be the lone constraint on market forces. Rookies can go to the highest bidder, period.
     
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    They should get rid of the salary cap too so owners like Paul Allen could really throw their weight around in free agency. More players would probably come here without the salary cap if we were throwing money around like the Yankees.
     
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    I think it's a great idea...I also think any college that awards a scholarship to a basketball player should require they play at least 2 years before going pro and if they leave before 4 years should have to play at least a season in the D league. I'd also like to see players like Greg Oden be required to prove they can stay on a court in the D league for a season before they ruin someone's cap space in the pros. I like an evolving NBA that doesn't get stagnant and addresses parity. ANYTHING TO ELIMINATE TANKING!
     
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    No draft?

    There'd be about 4 uber talented teams and the rest wouldn't be able to afford top caliber players.
     
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    I think the two years of college, D-League, or Europe would be a great rule. Would really help teams get a grasp on what they're drafting better.
     
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    Not for sure how to answer the poll question. If you answer no, everything would remain the same so not sure why there would be more tanking.

    I think something has to be done. Fans should not be cheering their teams when they lose and unhappy when they win. That is how we are this year. Philly is going to be rewarded for putting an absolute crap team on the court.
     
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    The lottery should be expanded IMO.
     
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    I disagree because there would be far more NBA ready players this way and they would not get the big bucks for 2-3 years of development...that's what college and the D league should be doing. Developing players and getting them ready for the pros. If they changed the way teams build a team, they could also have salary rules that counter the big bucks win it all theory.
     
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    I think that teams should be able to carry bigger rosters and have a plug and fit minor league team for each team. No limits on sending guys down or bringing guys up.
     
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    So you're against class systems?
     
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    notice he used the German adjective there...uber
     
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    The point of the draft is to assure the bad teams get the best players out of the draft - to try and make the teams competitive. The lottery is there to discourage teams from tanking to get the worst record and guaranteed 1st pick.

    If the teams get to pick the best players from D League instead of college (and college players off limit), it's the same deal. They'll tank for chance to get the best D Leaguer.
     
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    I'm for people getting what they can negotiate for their effort.

    A league is enough like a single business. They want to entertain people and make it so teams across the country can compete. That's their right.

    If the players don't like it, they can find another league.
     
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    I think the idea for the lottery was a good idea to begin with. Trying to better allocate picks so teams didn't tank all the time for the best picks. But with the entire draft being such a crap shoot now, it doesn't mean as much. In fsct, it actually hinders the team's that truly need top picks. So maybe it's time has probably past.

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    Keep the lottery. However, spread out the percentages of winning the top pick out a little more evenly. A team sitting at 8-11 should have better than a 1% chance of nabbing the top overall pick. If it were distributed better, finishing up the season in the middle of the lottery wouldn't seem so bad and would negate (slightly) the blatant tanking of teams like the Sixers and Suns.
     
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    they'd have to enforce a strict salary cap with no exceptions to ensure a semi even distribution of talent, no signing over the cap in any case etc
     
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    Why isn't it semi even now?

    The Nyets spent way into LT and that didn't work so well. Not sure it will work for the Cavs, either. The Warriors somehow became a powerhouse...
     
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    I disagree, it would take a complete change but that's what this thread is asking...and you know as well as we do, what the purpose of the current draft system is. I'm not so sure it's the best route but there must be an even playing field for players services.. players can choose to work out for a team but I don't think players should have to sign contracts in places they don't want to be either. If smaller markets want to have a huge impact on their chances...let them hire the best coaches ...they don't draft coaches
     
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    ultimately there is no really accounting for when things suddenly click like with the Warriors, or being able to hit the draft lottery in the mid 20's and beyond, there is still a lot of exceptional players out there who are having great seasons and success but arent being paid like they are going to be paid off the back of it. I guess that's where the bulk of redistribution will come into it, when you have a few key players coming off rookie/early contracts and are looking to get paid...

    If anything a completely hard cap will save situations like the Nets from happening.
     

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