The duplication of Dame and CJ

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I thought he'd be a good target, but Indy is doing pretty good this season. I don't think they'll trade him, although he's in a slump right now.
     
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    Damn Bones, it seems like we are always on the same page , it scares me sometimes.
     
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    He's a guy who needs a change of scenery...
     
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    CJ is legit...he's building a brand, high character and his value has never been higher..it has to be a slam dunk to trade him now and to me, Paul George, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler...those are no brainers. Needle movers. We have role players galore but 20pt shooters who can defend aren't easy to find.
     
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    Jimmy would b THE ultimate!:smiley-yippee: Jimmy would solve a LOT of our problems; I'd take Jimmy over George aaaaallllll day long! However, I wouldn't b sad IF PG came here:welcome: Only problem is that I don't think Chi. would trade him; next season there's a strong chance he might b 1 of the only good things left in Chi. w/ Gasol being old/saying he might not come back, some of their once best guys getting older/often injured & maybe even traded this yr., etc. so I see the Bulls building around him. ONLY way I see Jimmy even possibly coming here would b if he requested a trade & even then I doubt Chi. does it.:oops: Oooohhhh how sweet it would be to have 1 of my fav. players join us; Marquette guys r kind of awesome!:wink:
     
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    New rumors out of Philly and Boston that they are inquiring about CJ.
     
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    Whats the source? I havent seen those yet.
    Or are they from a personal connection?
     
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    I don't think Jimmy likes his coach..that's an opening..Chicago needs to blow it up and rebuild.
     
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    True, they r not the best of friends... :tongue2: I would LOVE it IF they did!:smiley-yup:
     
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    If Bos. is involved... I'm pretty sure Turner & Hunter (& possibly Zeller) would b in play; thing is though, for us, I'd only b interested in Marcus Smart/Jae Crowder (doubt that Bos. would deal either of those guys but... IF they were... CJ... it was nice knowin' ya & good luck man!:ygrin:)
     
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    Hmmm.... Boston's roster really isn't that interesting. If they offered both of their lottery picks, I would seriously consider it.

    If we're talking Philly, it would require Okafor or their lottery pick. Honestly, I'm not really thrilled about the idea of trading CJ for a pick. I want an established player, but Okafor is intriguing. They have too many young bigs with Okafor, Noel, and Embiid (most likely returning at some point.)
     
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    The chemistry between Dame and CJ isn't at it's highest. Dame dominates the ball too much and CJ doesn't pass and the offense isn't flowing ideally. I think there are some ego struggles and I think CJ being so effective with Dame out was an example of the best we can expect from him alongside Dame and we need to get to that place to maximize the team's potential
     
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    Smart has not lived up to his name, and many in the Celtic organization are displeased with his inability to control his emotions on the court. If he were dealt here, he would clearly be a backup, clearing room for Crabbe to start. Smart however is a bigger PG, and a plus defender (or so his reputation was; I don't know if that's held true in the pros). I'd need a first round pick along with Smart to make that deal though. Make it lowest lottery pick available (theirs, or Brooklyn's if Boston makes the playoffs).

    Edit: just looked more closely at Smart's stats, especially his shooting percentages. :smiley-puke: Definitely need Brooklyn's pick to trade CJ for him.
     
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    IMO if it was Philly it would likely be Noel and I personally feel a straight up CJ for Noel swap is fair for both teams. I think Philly keeps Okafor but I'd easily take him if he was offered.
     
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    I am sorry but this thinking is bullshit. Their chemistry off the court and on is the best we have seen in years on our team. This is all about you butthurt over Frazier not getting more minutes. Without CJ, Frazier is still going to be mediocre, man (unintentional MM, sorry). Sorry to say. He is a fringe-NBA player for a reason. Get off the train and support the team as whole not just who you think is better than they really are.
     
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    All I can tell you is that by just looking at them on the court and seeing them in photos they are at least an inch and a half difference in height now. I don't give two shits what they are listed at officially as those are almost always wrong one way or another in the NBA. This is a year of finding out what will or won't work. It has already worked better than most imagined. Olshey absolutely has earned my trust on this. I believe he makes the right decision in the long run (whatever that ends up being).
     
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    Problem with Okafor is he is a horrible defender. Hard to have a big that gives up as much or more than he scores on a per minute basis.
     
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    Yes, I think Frazier should play. I also think their chemistry on the court isn't ideal. Dame doesn't let CJ run the offense even though we won some games like that and CJ doesn't create for others and also the other players aren't ready for CJ to create for them, Dame is becoming the only one to run the offense and even though he's the point guard (and as I said, I wouldn't mind once, for 5 minutes, see him as a 2 next to Frazier), part of our strength is having two combo-guards and not just a PG and a short SG.
     
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    CJ has been distributing worlds better than earlier in the year. Even with Dame in the lineup with him he has assist games of 10, 8 and 7. This is all in your head imo.
     
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    http://www.youthhealthmag.com/artic...celtics-target-cj-mccollum-better-scoring.htm Shorter mention than the 2nd article.

    http://hoopshabit.com/2016/01/15/boston-celtics-trade-blazers-c-j-mccollum/ The 2nd half of the article is all about McCollum.

    Both of these articles are more 'The Celtics should do this' versus rumors but I've also heard that the Celtics are looking to improve and have 4 1st Round Draft picks to play with. Interesting that the two teams that have the most chatter involving CJ have a combined 7 1st round picks this coming Draft.
     
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