Do you think he will be moved at the deadline? With the way he has been playing and with the way the young guys have been steping it up, I think Danny should look into it. Previously I had been against the idea. But I think if the right deal came along, basically for cap space they should consider it. TA and Green can provide the C's with the scoring Wally does and I think the C's might do better without him. I think they could really start to gel and find their identity with a move like that. Who would want Wally?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Who would want Wally?</div>I think that's a question that everyone would say no too. His knees and now ankles are giving him big troubles. I mean you've seen him the past couple games. He can barley jump. He had one of the most fluid shots in the league and it has just been absolutely dead lately. 14-51 in the past four games. That's unheard of for Wally, he looks uncoordinated and flat footed. I don't even think he should be playing right now, it's certainly a complicated issue. Another part of that complicated issue is the 3 years and $36 MIL left on his contract
Here's an idea...I came up with a 3 team deal... Bos/NOK/SacBoston trades: Wally Szczerbiak and a 1stBoston gets: Desmond Mason and Vitaly PotapenkoBoston why?: Both Desmond Mason and Vitaly Potapenko only have a year left on their deals. Mason gives them that other vet alongside Pierce and would be a nice bench/role player. Then they could simply let him sign elsewhere. Vitaly Potapenko is mostly a filler, but with the C's injury woes he could see some time, I wouldn't mind having him back just so I could hear Tommy butcher his name. The C's make out in this deal. They free up mins for Green and TA and then get cap space.Sacramento trades: Ron ArtestSacramento gets: Wally Szczerbiak and a 1stSacramento why?: He has 3 years left just like Artest so they don't eat much their. Their offensive numbers are almost the same, and Wally is having a horrible year. Wally would add great chemistry and character to the Kings. I think think Wally's leadership and intagibles would make up for the D the Kings would loose. I would also expect his numbers to improve in the Kings system.NO/Oklahoma City trades: Desmond MasonNO/Oklahoma City gets: Ron ArtestNO/Oklahoma City why?: They get and upgraded version of Mason at a discount rate. Artest will give them the D and better offensive numbers than Mason. Chris Paul would make Artest look good.
I honestly dont think any team would want Wally....If I would have to guess, I would see the Celtics not trading him because they wouldn't get a good offer what so ever.But, the Celtics definitely need to trade Wally. He is forcing up shots, he is slowing down the pace of the game, and most of all, he is taking away minutes from TA, Gerald, and others. I think it is hard for Doc to sit Wally in crunch time because he is one of the leaders on the team, which is why I cant really blame him for leaving Wally in the game and giving him the final shot in yesterdays game. You give the ball to players who have done it in the past, not the players who are on fire for one night. Having said that, it is ridiculous that Gerald only got 19 minutes when he played that well. When Paul comes back, guys like Gerald and TA arent going to get sh*t for minutes, which is why we NEED to trade Wally.
I doubt he gets moved, for a few reasons.first, he may be playing very poorly, but he's still one of very few veteran presences on this team. And Boston fans are very bad at swaying one way when a player is playing a certain way, just look at tony allen. when paul pierce is back, wally will be more comfortable in his role and his numbers will go up. but by this time, hus numbers will have gone down a little bit to TA and Gerald, which is a good situation for Boston.secondly, not a lot of teams would want. I can think of maybe orlando or new orleans wanting a shooter, but I don't know how desperate they are, and I doubt new orleans would want peja and wally on the floor at the same time anyways.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jan 4 2007, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's an idea... I came up with a 3 team deal... Bos/NOK/Sac Boston trades: Wally Szczerbiak and a 1st Boston gets: Desmond Mason and Vitaly Potapenko Boston why?: Both Desmond Mason and Vitaly Potapenko only have a year left on their deals. Mason gives them that other vet alongside Pierce and would be a nice bench/role player. Then they could simply let him sign elsewhere. Vitaly Potapenko is mostly a filler, but with the C's injury woes he could see some time, I wouldn't mind having him back just so I could hear Tommy butcher his name. The C's make out in this deal. They free up mins for Green and TA and then get cap space. Sacramento trades: Ron Artest Sacramento gets: Wally Szczerbiak and a 1st Sacramento why?: He has 3 years left just like Artest so they don't eat much their. Their offensive numbers are almost the same, and Wally is having a horrible year. Wally would add great chemistry and character to the Kings. I think think Wally's leadership and intagibles would make up for the D the Kings would loose. I would also expect his numbers to improve in the Kings system. NO/Oklahoma City trades: Desmond Mason NO/Oklahoma City gets: Ron Artest NO/Oklahoma City why?: They get and upgraded version of Mason at a discount rate. Artest will give them the D and better offensive numbers than Mason. Chris Paul would make Artest look good.</div> I'm glad you aren't our GM lol. You'd trade Wally and a first round pick, for... Desmond "I can't shoot to save my life" Mason and VITALY POTAPENKO? Wow.
no offense but terrible ideaI would trade wally at this point for a draft pick..and maybe a decent vet on another team...im just not sure who would want Wally at this point...they would want someone like TA over Wally
I can't stand Wally anymore. I'd much rather see Gerald in there than him, but what can you do when you have a coach who is an absolute idiot.
The guy gets hurt and looses all support from the fans?? Well idk, I do know that he brings the outside game to the cs and is a very smart player. Wally is more mature, is a vet and is more reliable as of now to make shots and get points.
I love how the night after he pushes the Pierceless Celtics to a victory with 26pts he gets 0 respect.I really don't think you should compare Wally to Raef.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WELCOMEtotheJUNGLE @ Jan 6 2007, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is Wally the new Raef? Overpaid with bad knees....</div> Bad ankles too. Don't forget that he sprained both ankles in December. But no way. Wally is not the new Raef. Raef was a guy that had his career completely ruined due to his knees, and he never panned out. Raef is completely out of the rotation in PORTLAND. Wally would play at least 22-25 mpg on pretty much every team. He's still an excellent shooter, but we as fans are mad at him because of his slump. But, I still think he's a huge liability defensively, and of course he's very slow and injury prone. But some of you guys are busting Wally so bad and saying that you'd basically trade him for chump change. Come on... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I love how the night after he pushes the Pierceless Celtics to a victory with 26pts he gets 0 respect.</div> Yeah, you have a point, but that was one game.. plus this thread was made 2 days ago. But you can't argue that Wally has been inconsistent and a bit of a disappointment all year long.
He makes big shots though. Thats all that matters, not having Wally would really make the team worse IMO. Unless they can get a guy who can run the court well, you havta admit he makes big shots at times.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Madness @ Jan 6 2007, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He makes big shots though. Thats all that matters, not having Wally would really make the team worse IMO. Unless they can get a guy who can run the court well, you havta admit he makes big shots at times.</div> Yes, but very inconsistently this year. Nobody is arguing whether Wally can shoot or not, he is our best shooter. But the thing that is bugging people is the inconsistency with that shot this year (as well as a sluggishness and lack of defense). When Wally was in Minnesota, consistent was his middle name. In Boston last year, he played consistently. This year, a totally different story, and that is what is bothering people.
If they can't trade wally, he should be coming off the bench.The C's MIGHT get into the playoffs and will most likely be blow right back out of them.They may as well play and develop the youngsters and let Pierce show them how to be players.Wally offers the C's outside shooting and a few more W's they don't really need if they hope to get a good draft pick this year.Some of you don't think they should go this route and they young guys shouldn't be in a losing environment.. but the C's are 12-20 for crying out loud and that's with them trying to win in the cappiest division in the league. Keep in mind if the NBA draft was now, the Celts would have the #5 pick.. take your lumps this year with the young guys, get a great draft pick (AND KEEP IT) and trade away some of the young guys who are going to be role players anyways for more experienced players.that's what they should be looking at.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 4 2007, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm glad you aren't our GM lol. You'd trade Wally and a first round pick, for... Desmond "I can't shoot to save my life" Mason and VITALY POTAPENKO? Wow.</div>Expiring contracts!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jan 7 2007, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Expiring contracts!</div> Yeah, but adding in a first round pick (along with our best shooter) for expiring contracts is not something I would do. No way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 6 2007, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but adding in a first round pick (along with our best shooter) for expiring contracts is not something I would do. No way.</div>Ya, I didn't think of how good this years draft is. But then again do they really need to add more young talent. What about if they didn't have to give a first too? What if it was a 2nd or no pick?
