Tesla's Model III goes 200 miles per charge and costs $35,000

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  1. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Having to stop every 240 miles for a beer while you wait for your car to charge??? What's not to like??? Now that's a road trip!!!
     
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  3. riverman

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    To me it's like tobacco companies levying a tax on Nicorette lozenge users...they switch from tobacco and the tobacco company loses revenue...it's a choice, not a hindrance to old technology...it's like being taxed for emails because you don't buy stamps and use the post office anymore...I think it's ridiculous
     
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    But a beer cost more than a gallon of gas!
     
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    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

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    It'd be cool if they had solar panels on the roof so it could charge itself while driving.
     
  6. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Not enough electricity would be collected to charge the car.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Ironic you mention tobacco. The government is addicted to our money.
     
  8. Further

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    Well it's not quite like that. The electric cars still use the roads, they still use the rest stops, they still degrade the pavement, they still require street signs ......

    Having the gas-powered/low mpg cars pay more of the tax makes sense, it's a bit of a sin tax, but I'm also fine with all the the taxes not falling on their shoulders. And over time more will have to be levied from electric cars since there will simply be fewer of the older cars to tax. And if we simply put all the tax on the gas cars, than it will inevitably be a regressive tax, affecting poorer people who can't afford the upgrade by putting the entire burden of infrastructure on their shoulders.
     
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    bicycles get off scott free using roads though eh?
     
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    Another example of tax parity not existing...property tax in Oregon is really high....renters don't pay property tax so they don't contribute equally into the state's revenue base for education, police, etc....the amount of gas fueled vehicles in Oregon is an overwhelming majority compared to electric cars or even hybrids. Renters are a much larger demographic here than property owners. End point...Oregon needs a sales tax. If you have expendable income and shop...you contribute. This will not affect the poor who are just getting by as much.
     
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    Then there are these folks, not buying gas
    man in wheelchair.jpg
     
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    I don't know if you have ever owned a house and rented it out but almost all owners pass the costs for things like taxes onto their tenants in the form of rent. I rented out a house and calculated taxes as part of the rent.

    In business property leases I know they include taxes and such in rent.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    And 205 too
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    They need to make the tax based on mileage then normalized to weight. A F350 is going to wear out a road a lot faster than a Tesla.
     
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    This makes the most sense to me. You have perhaps 6 weight categories of vehicles and when you buy a vehicle, this might be a selling issue. All new cars could send a ping to the govt regarding their milage for tax season, and older cars would go to dec or something similar.
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    They're already charging sales tax on the vehicles, no?

    I owned a 1972 VW Bus I paid $2800 for in 1994. It cost $2800 new. I was possibly the 5th or 6th owner. The state sales tax added up for those sales/resales was more than it cost new.
     
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    No.
     
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    No license fee?
     
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    License fee yes, sales tax no.
     
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