Winning Iowa means very little...agree there for sure. This is not the beginning of the end for Trump at all. Cruz HAD to win Iowa due to the demographics in Iowa. Trump and Rubio both come out of Iowa in good shape IMO. I think Rubio has a real legit chance to win this thing. Cruz I still am up in the air on...does he have broader appeal. And Trump is a wildcard...not sure where he lands long term. After NH I think you'll get the big 3 and one Governor and be down to 4 maybe 5 candidates if Paul stays in...if not you'll be down to 4 IMO.
...if you and I and others think it's between Rubio/Cruz, and since Trump has been leading, that means that it really is "the beginning of the end" for Trump. ...and demographics be damned...Cruz's victory was a surprise...he was not projected to win there. ...and fwiw, Rand Paul has already dropped out.
Santorum and Paul dropped out today (surprised Paul dropped out...he was a guy I thought would go to the mattresses). If you don't count Gilmore that leaves 8 candidates left. And after NH we'll be down to 4 tops IMO. I think Trump has a shot for sure. To me I think Trump and Rubio are the favorites, and I want to see what Cruz does in a state outside of Iowa which is 100% perfectly tailor made for him. I don't agree Cruz's victory was a surprise at all. To me he was always the favorite. That state was PERFECT for him. He had BY FAR the best ground game. He spent BY FAR the most time in Iowa. The polls in Iowa are always VERY wrong, so they meant nothing to me. Cruz was the Iowa favorite, and he did what he had to do. Let's see how he plays in a state that isn't perfect for him.
...well, the polls are what we had to go by...and the polls said Cruz was not projected to beat Trump...hell, Rubio nearly beat Trump...nobody saw that either. So if Trump was your "favorite", fine...but nearly everything I've seen/heard/read viewed Cruz'z victory as a "surprise". ...Most polls also had Hillary winning easily in Iowa,...she didn't....but many of the "experts" sometimes like to cover their ass after the fact by citing demographics, etc., as the reason they and polls were proven wrong. ...long long way to but I think Trump will fade but will still stubbornly be a pain in the ass...and when the dust settles, Rubio/Cruz will be our next POTUS.
I don't love Cruz...BUT I would be the biggest Cruz supporter in the world if he was the GOP nominee against Hillary or Bernie. We cannot have either of those two in the WH...what a disaster. Hopefully Rubio gets it done. For that NH needs to eliminate a few Governors so he can consolidate the "establishment" vote.
...Chuck, you're spot on about Hillary/Bernie...we simply cannot afford another 4/8 years of this maniacal "leadership". ...but the really sad thing is that many of the same people who helped to elect Obama TWICE will be voting again. ...all things considered, Rubio may be the most "electable".
Yup......and an unsuspected record number of mainline Republicans turned out to vote and they voted "against" Trump, that is, they came back home to the established "experienced" politician. Personal opinion regarding Cruz- the guy "never" seems to talk about creating jobs, or actually looking forward to negotiating favorable business deals (like Trump constantly speaks of) with foreign govts which will/should also bring jobs back to the U.S. - Trump is constantly talking about targeting American businesses making it very favorable to KEEP their business HERE.....Cruz doesn't seem to have a clue, or hardly mentions our negative trade imbalance with China (-500 bil yearly), Mexico, ect. Cruz is a constitutional "expert" and within 20 seconds of hearing him speak he always seems to revert back to the Constitution......"Constitution this"..."Constitution that"......the Constitution doesn't build roads, pick up the garbage or give you the balls and ability to make difficult decisions, be a leader, be able to reach across, influence and touch other party lines to get things done and make favorable deals for YOUR agenda and the country. Cruz is too strident, comes across as convalescing and doesn't have the "pizzaz" to sway enough blue collar workers, labor unions, independents and the general minority groups......his far right leanings (imo) aren't going to play well in the big cities which play a big part in carrying States in the general election. And you can write off the northeast with Rubio and Cruz. Obama is also a "Constitutional Lawyer"........ he plays deep left field and Cruz plays deep right field.....except Obama has much much more charisma, is an excellent well spoken constant campaigner and manages to pull in virtually all of the Dem and liberal voters, younger people, minorities, "poor", labor unions, women who favor abortion on demand and enough "regular Joes". Trump has the capacity to reach considerably more non traditional "Republicans" than Cruz.....AND Rubio - IMHO. I think his Nationalistic, positive, confident national security "can do" persona will trump the professional CONSERVATIVE "talkers" from the Senate...jmho
Poor little Hillary Clinton once again talking about huge right wing conspiracies and the boogie man who always seem out to get here. I simply cannot stand this woman and her nonsense. Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault or some plot against her.
Last I checked, Cruz pulled the largest vote total for a R Caucus in history. That's base showing up to vote principals of small govt not religion. People that try to pin the Evangelical label on Cruz are in for a rude awakening, his appeal is a coalition of voters. Trumps while campaign was that he wins because he's a winner. That's over, next. Go back through the threads this summer I predicted Cruz/Rubio or Rubio/Cruz. I think Marco will be president someday, but I think Cruz has a better ability to undo the obamination of the last 8 years without compromise. I also want Cruz selecting SCOTUS appts.
Actually Cruz, Trump, and Rubio had the most votes ever in a GOP Iowa caucus. Turnout was huge. Cruz won Iowa because it was perfect for him in every way. That's reality and the way it is. NOW that doesn't mean he won't have appeal going forward...maybe not in NH but in SC and the southern states he will for sure. He also has money and an excellent organization and is a very smart guy. So he has a real chance for sure. As for Trump, will you say he is done when he wins NH? Now I agree 100000000% if he doesn't win NH he is done, but I am not sure how you can act as if he is done when he came in 2nd in a state that was tailor made for Cruz AND he has a huge lead in NH AND he has good leads in other upcoming states. So I simply disagree on Trump's status currently. Lose NH and my tune changes on him, must win just like Iowa was a must win for Cruz, but if he wins NH he is right there for sure. With that said I happen to think the Trump thing will wear off and he won't get the nomination, it will be Cruz or Rubio IMO, but today as we sit and discuss this he is still very much in it...assuming he wins NH.
I watched literally 5 minutes of her speaking Mess and had to turn it off. It was sad and pathetic to see her blame EVERYONE...like poor Hillary. I almost have no words to describe the sadness that is her standing up there like poor me everyone is always knocking me and being mean and it is all a right wing conspiracy. ZERO accountability. Truth is though, that is why the Dem party loves her. That is what the party has become. Oh the man is holding us down. Oh the rich are holding us down. Oh everyone is against us. It is NEVER hey maybe we need to get out there and bust our butts and actually earn it...NOPE...it is much easier to say the man is holding us down...government owes me and must take care of me and must give me free stuff...IT IS PATHETIC. Best part is Obama has been Pres for 7 years now and they act like that didn't happen. They talk like we'll change this and we'll change that...Hillary talks as if a Republican has been Pres for 7 years the way she says we'll improve things for you. It is laughable. The whole get in the corner and cry about the man and take no accountability and act as if Obama hasn't been in office for 7 years is comical. To me that party has become the I cannot do it myself party...it is easier if I blame everyone and take no accountability party...the man/rich man is holding me down party...and the government should give me things party. It is sad and pathetic and when Hillary goes off on her oh they are so mean to me and it is a right wing conspiracy BS they eat it up, because it fits perfectly with the we are the victims mantra that is the Democratic party these days. SAD...
Yeah...Sant is a Rubio backer now. Doubt it matters much. Funny how no/very few senators are backing Cruz...says a lot about how people feel about him personally.
Bingo! And if he has trouble "getting along" with his own party Senators, how in hell he is supposed to influence, deal with, and "lead" as the commander in chief?
Obama has recently signed his last budget deal where he got just about "all" he wanted which will also add a couple more trillion $ to the deficit with a majority Republican Congress and Senate. This is where he is kinda (imo) similar to Trump- he must have some skill and know a little something about making "promises" and satisfying those from the other aisle to further HIS agenda......but the big difference between him and Trump is their expectations, philosophy, and concern for the well being of the country's economic and national security both at home and abroad.
FWIW: According to the latest tracking poll put out by the University of Massachusetts....... NH POLL POSITIONS = Trump..........38% Cruz.............14% Rubio...........12% Bush.............9% Kasich..........7% Christie........6% Carson.........3% Fiorina.........3%
...^^^ A few words besides pathetic exposed Fraud.... Hillary at a podium, or on stage, looks like- She just found out what the entire world has been talking about ie, Her Husband found guilty of getting blow jobs, and they didn't come from Her, or that "say whaaaat" embarrassed look....., eg, "her dirty little secrets".... brings to mind: I make my living off the evening news Just give me something-something I can use People love it when you lose, They love dirty laundry Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who Comes on at five She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam In her eye It's interesting when people die Give us dirty laundry You don't really need to find out what's going on You don't really want to know just how far it's gone Just leave well enough alone Dirty little secrets Dirty little lies We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie We love to cut you down to size We can do "The Innuendo" We can dance and sing When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing We all know that crap is king Give us dirty laundry!
