Dame doesn't want a trade

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  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Wes never said that. I saw all the Wes interviews on sportsnation and whatnot. He is confident in his abilities as all good NBA players should be. He wanted a fair market deal and thats what he got. Him and LaMarcus were close, he never said anything about LaMarcus' coattails.

    Just because a guy parts with the team you don't need to bad mouth him. LaMarcus deserves the flack he gets; Wes shouldn't get any. He got the contract that multiple teams offered him and thats what he deserves. It might work out best for us we didn't pay it. Dallas still has more wins than us with not much difference in talent and this was supposed to be his recovery year so who knows.
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I agree. He seemed pretty upset when we didn't even make him an offer. That doesn't sound like someone that wanted to chase money/stardom.
     
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    Thats exactly it. Its only been 1 and a half months. How can you say they are done improving? How can you say we wont continue to improv this year, GS comes back to earth and we aren't competitive in two years as constructed? You cant. Just like we cant say they WILL improve and be the best team in the league. We cant. So until more is clear, you are as wrong as I am. :)

    I may be in homerville, but you live in pescimist nation, not realitytown. :)
     
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    I never said they can't continue proving. But it's going to have to be a ridiculous jump, skip, and sprint for them to be considered championship material soon or in the future as constructed. And I'd rather try to improve today while we have cap space to do so, instead of locking our own guys to expensive deals now and locking us into less flexibility.

    Every team, no matter how good they are, wants to improve. That's reality.

    Baking the cake sucks
     
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    Fair enough. I guess my premise is they already made some ridiculous jumps, so why think they cant continue to do so?

    Also, I dont want to improv today at all if it means expiring to try to win now and not building for the long term.
     
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    Dame and the players want that extra money coming their way if we stay put. $14 million under the salary floor. Not sure if it is divided evenly between the players or weighted some how. But that is a lot of extra money for most of the guys. They don't want to lose that money just because.
     
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    Absolutely, he should engage. The difference between engage and dictate are what we saw with LeBron in Cleveland or McHale getting ousted in HOU- that kind of stuff is ridiculous. I don't think Dame would be THAT guy- but I'm also growing incredibly confident in Olshey's decision making, and at this point I'm confident in him making the right choice- whether he agrees with Dame or not.
     
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    They could, I'm just not buying it. Maybe they will prove me wrong, and I'd be the first one sitting and eating crow if so.

    Of course you want to build for the long term. I wouldn't take someone like channing Frye unless they gave me a pick that looks awesome. But we need to use the cap space while we can to acquire assets. Which can be picks or players. A lot of our cap is going to be taken by dames extension, crabbes extensions, cjs extension, plumlee etc. In the next couple years
     
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    in fact he did...he stated on LA tv that he didn't want his value to be tied to Lamarcus..and that he wanted a bigger go to role..also said he wanted to get paid...I too watched all his interviews...he got what he wanted. I loved Wes but he did also say he didn't see a return to Portland in the cards. I'm happy he got paid and happier now we didn't pay him what Cuban did
     
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    This isn't me giving Wes flack at all....this was me being an audience and a fan following the process
     
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    two different issues...yes he was upset we didn't pursue him..but he was already partying with Parsons and Jordan by then and making other plans. Wes is a proud guy. He did want a big contract and the money and he did want to be more of an offensive option from his own words. Not that there's anything wrong with that..I'm happy for him and watch the Mavs whenever the Blazers are off.....from what I've seen, we dodged a bullet
     
  12. Natebishop3

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    I definitely didn't want to re-sign him to some massive deal.... and it sure paid off because we had CJ and Crabbe and eventually Hendo.
     
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    We baked a cake with those Drexler/Porter teams.
     
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    The Spurs did ok baking the cake
     
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    Did we though?
    88/89 they traded Kiki at the deadline, then in the summer traded Bowie for Buck Williams.
    1990/91 Traded for Ainge, and Traded Drazen for Walter Davis

    There was a lot of tweaking and shuffling leading up to 1988 as well.
     
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    Kind of. Buck Williams and Duckworth wete acquired by trade right?
     
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    The spurs didn't bake anything. They lucked into Duncan when drob was hurt an entire year.

    And they went out and bettered thenselves by signing. Lma so thanks for making my point
     
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    Also traded George Hill for Leonard.
     
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    When Tim Duncan takes a huge paycut to bring back Parker and Ginobli....I call that baking a cake
     
  20. JFizzleRaider

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    That's not baking a cake. That's taking a paycut at the end of your career to keep your guys together.
     

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