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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Reading Brooks made me laugh. Stating Dallas has been dogging the Rangers for weeks on Yandle. and offering Nichuskin might make it tough for Gorton to not give up Yandle. Puhlease. If Dallas offered that guy up, Gorton didn't help Yandle pack, he should be fired on the spot. Also, Brooks makes it like Yandle is dominating. I have never watched one game of Yandle here and said, "Wow. Yandle is dominating." Not one. Only defenseman I've said that about as Rangers were McDonagh in the playoffs the year they went to the finals. Leetch in 1994. That's it.

    My guess is the Stars are offering Roussel, Ritchie and a first. Something like that. Either way, Dallas actually has a stocked farm system. Rangers would be morons not to deal Yandle in the right package from them. Yandle will not be the difference in this team winning a cup. All they will do is lose the guy for nothing and set the organization back years.
     
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    panzerporter Well-Known Member

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    Yandle is the Rangers best offensive dman but he's also hands down their worst defensive dman. Keith is a turnover machine. The only way I could see the Rangers keeping him is if Gorton was somehow able to trade Boyle or Staal. Otherwise it makes no business sense to keep Yandle to let him sign elsewhere after the season ends, his offensive ability definitely gives him trade value.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If the plan is to not resign Yandle, then Gorton needs to get the best deal he can. With about a week left before the deadline there's no need for Gorton to settle on a deal yet.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    As far as I'm concerned, he needs to be dealt. Not that he doesn't contribute. He does. Just can't afford to lose him. If you trade him for a forward, commit to Skjei or Graves, find a way to add a veteran lefty handed defenseman.
     
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    Hate to burst your bubble guys but Yandle's staying.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyway he's staying. I just think the Rangers are playing hard to get with Yandle to jack his value up. If Dallas offers up, 2, can't miss young players who are good prospects, no freakin way they don't make the deal because that gives them all kind of options. Trading Hayes, Klein, ect....
     
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    If it's Nischushkin id say yeah but even so we can't afford to lose what Yandle brings if going for the SC seriously. Especially with McD recovering. I dont think they have designs on Skjei being up full time till next year.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    Just trade Kreider while his value is pretty high. Watch this tool demand a long term 30 million deal contract in the offseason.
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    Yandle is gone and maybe to dallas on this road trip and kreids is going nowhere as we are not dumping a kid with his size and speed who is 24 because he is having an off season in his 3rd season. Plus the kid makes no money and a team like us in cap hell needs him. Besides, when he breaks out I don't want to see him do it in a bruins jersey. Just be patient. The kid will be fine.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The only thing Kreider has going is hope he can put it together, b/c through his age 24 season he has yet to sniff 50pts and will cost a lot more starting next year.
     
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    based on what...his stats don't scream show me the money
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    He'll get a bridge deal
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    He had 46 pts last year. Thats not sniffing 5o?
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    Agree Al, he'll get a reasonable team deal like a bridge but if team was smart and a few dollars more gets him a McD type deal saving a lot of money in the future I hope the team does it.
     
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    NYR31 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    he's already costing $2.5M. You're probably not getting him next year for less than $4M.
     
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    If Ladd isn't happening which is likely since someone will outbid them, then Bodkker should be the next target. After that it's a dropoff to guys like Versteeg and Purcell who would be of help to the bottom 6. Eric Staal would be great but it seems like a bit of a longshot when you combined Carolina having to eat salary and the Rangers having to give up a future 1st and top 5 prospect.
     
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    mrmel29 Well-Known Member

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    Hearing a lot of staal rumors (eric) but can't imagine what we would have to give up that most of us wouldn't want to kill gorton.
     
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    No way we get Boedker if Chicago is after him because they will give up a first. We don't have one this year and can no longer give up number 1 picks. We need to build up our farm again.

    I could see Staal. He's having a bad season. Carolina can retain half his salary. I would not give up anything of note for him. He has 43 points in 43 career playoff games. He's made the playoffs twice in his career. I'm sure he's frustrated and bored there now. He has 31 points in 61 games which is horrible for him. He's worth a risk at a low price. If I would have to guess, I would think Carolina is after one of the Rangers 3 goalie prospects. Shesterkin, Halverson or Huska. I wouldn't do that. You don't know which one of those could be the replacement for Hank. I would prefer to give up Hellberg who is 24, a few prospects like Nieves, Fogarty and Jensen. That's it. Staal has little to any value right now. Giving up anything impressive for him is just stupid.

    I've heard Lindberg for Staal. I don't do this. Lindberg has always been much better the second year in any league he's played. He's also got the ability to be a top faceoff guy. That being said, I could see the Rangers doing this. Hoping, Staal finds his game again and is motivated. Then, I could see them moving Nash in the off-season, signing Staal, moving Hayes to wing and bringing Buchnevich in.
     
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    I don't see any certainty in Yandle staying, the Rangers played for the Cup without him and keeping him is a bold move by a first year GM, we'll find out either way soon enough. There is no doubting Keith's offensive skills, he's top 10 there but defensively he's not top 100.

    I wouldn't trade any of the young RFA's unless Stamkos is involved. Even if CK was to go to arbitration and win (he makes $2.6 this year), he'll be a bargain for a player with his size and skills, with age comes maturity. Hayes - $900K, Miller - $874, and McIlrath - $600K all should be resigned for very cap friendly numbers. With Lindberg making $700K and Fast $1 mil next year the Rangers will have the money to make some aggressive free agency moves in the off season if Gorton could move Nash or Staal. Skjei - $925K/3 years and Graves $650/2 years also deserve a legitimate chance. Paying a mediocre defensive unit $20+ mil is effin ludicrous in today's NHL.
     
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    Black Cocks just got Ladd
     

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