Disturbed, where ya been man? And that's good, if the Rangers didn't i'd like to see the Hawks get him.
I would agree on trying to avoid dealing Lindberg, who is a very smart and useful player going forward. Fast is useful also but i would rather keep Lindberg of the two. For Staal if Carolina ate salary i'd offer Hayes, 2nd and a prospect like Saarela or Kovacs.
Hawks' management team has it all over the 'clueless' GMs in this league. They'll be sipping from another SC.
What's up SC. I have been around but not posting much. I will be around more as we're close to playoff time. Rangers are in a bad spot w the deadline. They have gone for it past couple years haven't won cup don't have 1st rounders and Hank is getting older. Will be interesting.
I don't understand trading Yandle if we are making a run this year. If we not then I am with most of you who are for trading him, but if we making a run then why would we get worse? It doesn't make sense. I don't think this team can get it done this year, not with the roster we have now and not with the coaching staff that we have in place. If we are not then lets trade Boyle, Yandle, Moore, Klien, Stalberg, Nash and rebuild. I am all for that. We can probably get 3 to 4 first round draft picks and some significant prospects for those players. But if we are making a run then we need Yandle in a much bigger role and he needs to stay. Plus we need to add a few players. It really is beyond me. Well, we are going to lose him for nothing! Then why did we get him in the first place? To WIN A CUP, otherwise the whole thing does not make sense. It is beyond stupid!
From what I've read most people think keeping Yandle and putting Nash on LTIR is the way to go. That way they free up cap space and Nash could return for the playoffs and the cap implications wouldn't matter. Kane did the same thing last year in Chicago which allowed them to get Vermette.
Trade Yandle because he wont't be coming back here. Cant lose him for nothing. Let Dylan be the six d-men. I think it make sense putting Nash on LTIR and improve this roster at least to give it a shot. I think they can get by without him until the playoffs. Hank will carry their asses as per usual...LOL
I have a feeling E Staal is coming. I'm concerned about what he will cost. In some ways the Rangers are in a horrible and dangerous situation - They have a veteran team with an aging elite goalie and a narrowing window of opportunity to win a cup.....You cant really rebuild, Hank is a once in a generation goalie and he will be 34 soon. Most of your Dmen are starting to slide in terms of effectiveness with age and lots of playoff mileage. They have already been aggressive in deadlines in years past and came very close to a cup (Finals and ECF). In doing so they have given up some of their future. You can only do that so many times. Ideally I would love to trade Girardi, sign Yandle long term and make some tweaks at the deadline. I like Staal a lot even though his numbers aren't great, he is built for the playoffs. He has been bored playing in Carolina the past few years and is only 31. But the problem is what will he cost. And what do you do with Yandle. They need his puck moving skills to score in the playoffs but you cant lose him for nothing. How do you really rebuild when you have probably 2-3 more elite years out of Lundqvist and likely wont have a goalie that good again for 10-20 years. Gorton has a lot to think about and is in a tough spot.
1. Put Nash on LTIR. Best case you get 3 or 4 weeks out of Nash before the season ends (season ends 6 weeks from tomorrow). I say let him rest and be 100% for the playoffs. 6:08PM: Vigneault said that Nash has a "serious bone bruise," it's "week to week" and that anything with a bone is usually "4-8 weeks". (Ranger Rants) 4:02PM: Rick Nash had another MRI and is maybe 7-10 days away from starting lower body workouts. (NYR) 2. Keep Yandle. He will leave this summer, but to deal him now is a step backwards this season, and this team has to go for it now. Only way this changes is if they can get a very good return for Yandle AND make a deal for a solid LD to replace him now. 3. GO GET STAAL. That's the guy. He is a proven playoff performer. He is always over 50% on face-offs. He has size. He is a prefect fit here. We need to get that deal done. Nash, Staal, Brass, Stepan, Zucc, Miller, Kreider, Hayes, Stalberg is a very good top 9. That is a top 9 that can win a cup. I would actually also see if there is anyway to get a 4th line upgrade as well. Add in a good D and one of the best goalies in the NHL and you have a legit shot to win a cup. We will play the Isles in round 1 and then, if we win, comes the series that will be our toughest challenge of all...round 2 against the Caps. We will be a big underdog, but all you can do is leave it on the ice and hope for the best. With Hank 34 in less than a week, there is no turning back IMO. You go for it and you add Staal and try to add a 4th line/PK upgrade as well. It can be done. No sense of staying as is or making a small little add. I truthfully would see very little point to that. I rather deal off and add picks than add a lesser player for a small band aid. Makes no sense for a team like ours. Hope you can resign Staal after the season. And we have a good base locked up for a long while. Plus we could also try and deal Nash this summer as well. Makes a lot of sense...GO GET STAAL.
And BTW...Girardi has been very good since he got healthy. The guy is a +17, best on the team. He has 5 points and is a +9 in 12 February games. I know you all love to hate on him, but Girardi is a very good dman that plays big minutes against the other teams top players. He gets very little respect in here, but he is a very good dman, and 95% of the teams would love to have him near the top of their D. And I'm out...
Hey Chuck, long time no talk. I agree with you that Girardi is playing well and the guy is a warrior, the kind of guy you want in playoff wars. But Yandle's skill set is sooooo hard to find. I would rather have Yandle locked up than Girardi at this point and I have always felt Girardi was super impt to this teams blue line. They can't pay all their Dmen big deals, to me Girardi is the odd man out especially if they get Eric Staal who will want to play with his brother. Yandle is a difference maker on O and I want to see what he can bring in a playoff run now that he is used to playing this system
To me it isn't LD Yandle or RD Girardi. It has always been LD Yandle or LD Staal. Staal is the guy I move for Yandle not Girardi. To me Girardi is the better player and a R shot as well. Either way it kind of doesn't matter because the Rangers won't move either IMO. I just don't see it. Plus they would also have to agree to a deal. IF they get Eric Staal I agree that changes the dynamic, because having Marc would be the key to keeping Eric, but I don't see either of those dmen being dealt. I do see Yandle moving on after this season if they do keep him past Monday.
I'd like them to get Staal as that would be a big time boost but that would most likely prevent any 4th line upgrade in someone like Purcell. Which would certainly be ok. A loophole for Nash on LTIR giving them cap room and also letting him heal until April is a good scenario. And there's also still the possibility of Buchnevich.
I actually never even said what I would be willing to give up, so not sure how that would mortgage your precious future dump. Anyway...I agree with you sort of. We should either really go in to win it and add a guy like Staal (and have the Canes keep some cap money so we can add a 4th line PK guy also) OR we should deal off Yandle for the future and maybe add a small low cost player. It makes no sense to me if we half a** it. We are not beating the Caps and winning the cup with mid range add that would cost any real assets for the future. In that case I would say deal Yandle for a good future payback, and maybe deal a much lesser asset for a small bottom 6 and go from there. If we plan to just add a medium type guy than we should deal Yandle and not bother. If we are truly going for a cup we need a big add like Staal, not some medium add that won't really change things. So to keep Yandle in that situation doesn't make sense to me. Either go really in OR deal Yandle and focus on building up the system this season for a retooling to make a run again next season.
No they to keep Yandle to go along with Staal if their aim is to win. He's not going anywhere anyway.
