(Quick) When enemies are friends: Trail Blazers-Raptors matchup has ties that bond

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think a trade like that makes a lot of sense. We desperately need a big who can score. Right now Leonard is the only big that can score for us. That's frightening.

    I would look to move a couple pieces to acquire a power forward who can score. Whether that's someone like Ryan Anderson, or maybe a vet like Zach, but I really think we need someone who can score at the four spot. Neil seems to love Monroe. That might be the piece that he pursues.

    Dame
    CJ
    DeRozan
    Monroe
    Plumlee
     
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    I haven't paid attention to Ibaka this season - but in past seasons he's looked like the perfect PF. And he's not old. Honestly, OKC just doesn't seem long for this world, and if there's been a slip in Ibaka's performance I'd blame it on the team.
    I'd LOVE for Vonleh to be 80% of Ibaka. While his improvement from where he was early in the season has been encouraging, he's still a long way from being on Ibaka's level. I am more inclined to think he'll become a good PF in the next two years, but as they say - a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
     
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    Too many scorers, not enough defense

    Dame
    CJ
    DeRozan
    Vonleh/Aminu
    Plumlee

    Mmmm yes
     
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    Dame and DeRozan are also managed by the same agency (along with Harrison Barnes) as mentioned in the article I think their brand manager is that Nate Jones guy. DeRozan is also taken care at Adidas by that JP Duperriere guy who lives in Portland as well.
     
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    What if Neil wants to get crazy and has plans to bring in Derozan, move C.J for a big name PF in a multi player trade? Will Blake Griffin for C.J come up again? I do predict that CP3 will get moved to Cleavland this summer.
     
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    I would love to take you up on that bet.
     
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    Because he's a free agent the following summer?
     
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  8. KeepOnRollin

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    Huh?
     
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  9. Natebishop3

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    We need a consistent scorer at either the 4 or the 5. Currently Vonleh/Plumlee are not a threat on offense. The combo of Leonard/Davis is better because Leonard can stretch the floor, but we need that with the starting unit. Vonleh isn't ready yet. He's just not confident enough in his shot.
     
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  10. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    I read about the relationship between Davis and Derozan and between Damian and Derozan a couple weeks ago.

    I've been wondering if the blazers made a trade for Monroe or even Blake Griffin at the draft if would they still have enough to sign a max player like Derozan?
     
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    Sounds like it would be a pretty good fit. I've never been a huge fan of DeRozons game but he could definitely be that 3rd scorer we desperately need. And he sounds like a good dude that would put the team first.
     
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    Possibly but it would depend on who POR sent out in salary with that trade. Most likely we would have to renounce at least Leonard and Henderson in that case and possibly even one other (Crabbe - unlikely or Harkless -slightly more likely - from there)
     
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    I remember people saying they've never been a big fan of Henderson's game before he came to Portland.
     
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    Nate, sorry bro, but it sure seems like your not able to look into the future at all.

    You say Currently. This is true, but does not speak to anything about improvement. Hell no I don't want to move Vonleh for someone better CURRENTLY, because our roster CURRENTLY isn't going to win. Lets let him improve and in two years when we are potential valid contenders, if he hasn't grown and improved, THEN you move him. But if you keep trying to move our potential players, for stars, your going to screw with the chemistry and just bring in more unknowns.

    You my friend are far too insistent on trading away young potentials because they Currently aren't stars. This doesn't make sense to me and I don't think it makes sense to most.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Can Crabbe?

    Is friendship (and championship potential) thicker than Mo Money?

    Would CJ be content coming off the bench behind Dame/DeRosan? (Gawd our backup lineups would be Hawt.)

    Can Vonleh make enough of a leap to make some of you forget about trading him in a get rich quick scheme?

    Would he even need to?

    Inquiring minds want to know the future.

    :cheers:
     
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    Dame/DeRosan/Aminu/Vonleh/Plumlee

    CJ/Crabbe/Harkless/Davis/Meyers

    And Henderson?
     
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    Thats your championship squad?
     
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    Still don't like that starting line-up. At best only two of Aminu/Vonleh/Plumlee should be in a starting line-up.
    I'm all for sliding DeRozan in at SF, but not willing to "demote" CJ for DeRozan.
     
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  19. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    DeRozan has said he wants to be in Toronto for his whole career but another first round exit might have both sides looking for new ideas. He is looking for max money in his next contract after taking a bit of a discount deal in his last one ($9.5MM per for four years, fourth year player option). There will be teams looking to sign him but fewer than if he was willing to sign for less than $25MM per which is about what his agent has intimated he's going to demand.

    Also, this...

    http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/would-you-would-they-trade-offer-thread.287229/
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    CJ. 18.2
    Crabbe 8.8

    Derozan 17.6
     
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