Michigan Primary

Whoa, this is looking pretty crazy.

On the R side, so far it looks like Trump will win, at 37% right now. With 75% reporting, Kasich and Cruz tied for 2nd with about 25% each. Shockingly, Rubio is only at 9%. I think Rubio getting dirty, talking dick size with Trump really made him look too young for the electorate. I bet he quits the race by Saturday.


On the D side, it's virtually tied Sanders and Clinton, right now Sanders up by a hair. But in one of the last polls, Clinton had been up by 17%, so this is really unexpected. I don't think it will be enough to make a difference, but perhaps it will make Hillary look too weak and Bernie could go on a roll.

It's a great game!

 

I love it! Seeing Hillary lose is cool, even a primary. Lets say Bernie did by some majic win. I know you will vote for him but do you think the nation will vote for a socialist over the ultimate Capitalist ever to run? I think maybe Bernie wins NH.

 

I'm really not sure. I think Kasich or some other moderate would kill Bernie, but I think Bernie would cream Cruz. I really don't know who would win between Bernie and Trump.

 

Oh, and Hillary smashed Bernie to hell in Mississippi. But that was expected and not too indicative of any of the upcoming states. Whereas MI could be a bellwether for Ohio, Wisconsin and several other upcoming contests.

 

I think you are right. At some point a job will out rank a free bird in the bush.

 

The South is not the bellwether of the North, or of deciding the Democratic candidate for the whole nation. Clinton has won the Southern states and Sanders has won almost all of the rest.

In the general election, each state's electoral votes count all or nothing. So before that, in the convention, states which never give their electoral votes to the Democratic candidate should not get their convention votes counted equally to states which will. But they do, so we have to pretend that Bernie winning all but the South somehow makes Hillary the leading candidate.

 

I saw those fake polls. Michigan is one of the most leftist states. How could Clinton possibly win over Sanders. Ridiculous. Tells you something about the corrupt politics there, with a supposedly cleanly-elected Republican governor appointing a dictator over each city abandoned by his corporate contributors, GM and Ford.

 

If it weren't for the super delegates I would have some hope for Sanders going on a roll from here on. But as it stands, the cards are stacked pretty stiffly against the Bern.

 

Allocated (Clinton to Sanders) 669 to 471
Total delegates (Clinton to Sanders) 1100 to 493

That's disgusting! It's going to keep me from being a Dem.

 

Bernie has won almost all non-Southern states (the states whose electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate in the general election). Hillary has won all the Southern states (the states irrelevant to a Democrat winning the general election, since electoral votes are winner take all). If the media weren't covering it as, Hillary is inevitable, many superdelegates might change their minds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

 

So you'll cut off your nose to spite your face. The Republicans on the board say, good man.

 

Well, not being a Dem doesn't mean I don't vote for a Dem if I need to in order to keep a crappy republican from getting elected. I would vote Bernie if he made it. I would vote Hillary if it were down to her vs. either Cruz or Trump. If it were down to Hillary vs Kasich, I think I would either abstain or vote Kasich. The chances of that happening are slim to none though, so most likely I'll end up holding my nose and voting for Hillary. It's also not Hillary's fault that the system is rigged, she's just the benefactor. I like a lot of her policies, but that's partially because she has held every position at some point.

 

I voted for Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson in 2012 (my first time voting). I registered as a democrat a couple months ago so I will be able to vote for Bernie. I'm still not decided on who I will vote for if Bernie doesn't recieve the nomination.

 

I'm a Flint resident - ask me anything!

 

It is pretty outrageous. HOWEVER, I believe Hillary had a similar lead in Super Delegates over Obama in 2008, but once Obama started winning more primaries, the SDs re-committed. So these aren't final unchangeable allegiances to Hillary.

What does "being a Dem." amount to? Are you saying that, if faced with an election choice between Clinton and Trump, you'd refuse to vote Clinton because of this issue? That would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.