OREGON MINIMUM WAGE SET AT $14.75 AFTER GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL AMIDST OPPOSITION’S DEFIANCE

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Better.

    It's not just about technicalities. It's about actual racism.

    Actual racism is rare except in the case of how blacks are treated every day. For all the laws we've passed to improve things, and all the generations that have passed with improved attitudes, there are still a gazillion laws written into the books of most (if not all) states, cities, counties, etc., by racists in previous eras. Not just laws, but regulations by industries and businesses.

    That's just scratching the surface.

    So when a black man like dviss1 speaks up, he's not whining, he's giving you the benefit of his experience.
     
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    rac·ist
    ˈrāsəst/
    noun
    1. a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    prej·u·dice
    ˈprejədəs/
    noun
    1. preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
     
  4. dviss1

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    I have never done that. Bump the thread.
     
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    What I have said is that racism doesn't affect us equally.
     
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    This is the silliest notion I've ever heard. I can guarantee you no one is doing this. Selling food stamps for money to buy crack yeah maybe. To buy weed? Come on now...
     
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    Like I said, it's very possible that I misremember your response to the thread, but it's not important enough to me to look it up.
     
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    So... again tell me how Trump is a racist, using Denny's definitions above?
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    I'm not sure he's racist, but he's making direct appeals to racists.

    “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

    This implies he believes all but "some" illegal immigrants are as bad as the racists want to believe.
     
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    Denny has put his blinders on.
    There are more.

    1 Based on racial intolerance

    2 Discriminatory especially on the basis of race

    Then racism.

    2. Discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race.
    I think pounding the shit out of a person of another race fits here. What was that game last year? Where they were trying to knock out people with one punch? Can't remember the name.
     
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    It is my thought, when unsure of a derogatory thing about another person, it would be best if you left it unsaid.
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    Yep. By the numbers, 1/10th of their population lives here.

    As far as I am concerned a mexican who lives here is just that. A mexican. Mexican citizen.

    We don't have laws against foreigners owning property or having many rights citizens do. In fact, foreigners within our borders are subject to the equal protection of all our laws.
     
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    It would be left unsaid except for his bigoted statements - statements a racist would say.
     
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    I am concerned about your last paragraph. Not for any racial reasons. It just has always seemed weird to me that people from say the Phillipines could buy a bunch of land in the usa, but I can't buy the same type of land without being married to a citizen or by putting it in a citizens name.
     
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    Possible, but a stretch. Either way, Donald Trump is not a racist, or at least can be proved by what he has said towards Mexicans, or the Muslim religion. So people that are insinuating that are completely wrong.

    I will say this. I do not believe in illegal immigration; the damage that these people do to the environment at our borders is disgusting and that is putting it lightly. I have friends who live in AZ, they have sent some seriously outrageous pictures of the 'illegal trails'.
     
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    I guess that could be true in some cases. Not sure how you mean it though.
    Given this definition of racism, "Discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race"
    I can't see it coming my way except as words that mean nothing. The physical abuse has been attempted a few time, but that didn't work.
    So what would the unequal affect?
     
  17. Denny Crane

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    ?

    I'm pretty sure the Japanese (Sony) bought Columbia Pictures (it's now Sony Pictures).

    And

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_investment_in_the_United_States_real_estate
     
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    He paints a group of millions of people as rapists and murderers, based upon their ethnicity. I think that's at least bigotry.
     
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    Sony pictures isn't real estate. I'm talking about land in other countries. You don't see any problem in other countries buying up land in the usa, but not allowing us the same courtesy in their country ?
     
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    Nope. We sell property to foreigners because it brings foreign capital into our economy.

    Other countries can do what they want. Whatever we're doing makes us the #1 economy in the world. Whatever the other countries do, they're not the biggest economy.

    If you like, you can buy a chateau in France.

    http://www.proprietesdefrance.co.uk/announces/chateau-real estate-properties for sale-france/
     

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