OREGON MINIMUM WAGE SET AT $14.75 AFTER GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL AMIDST OPPOSITION’S DEFIANCE

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  1. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    OK -- so you got me on semantics, whoop whoop nice. It doesn't matter unless you are just truly obtuse and not getting my point?

    I think my previous points explain my position. Denny wants to allow illegals here because he doesn't care, I don't because its a slap in the face to legal immigrants, and tax payers.

    Luckily most of the country support my POV.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It's no "slap in the face" to anyone. That's just something that exists between your ears.

    If anything, it's flattery that people want to be here.
     
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  3. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I'm glad you can speak for the rest of the country. Tell that to the person that was interviewed in Trumps line, who was a legal immigrant, and voting for Trump because of illegal immigration.

    Not to mention, if it wasn't a problem like you say it isn't, there wouldn't be laws about illegal immigration, or border patrol agents.

    Sorry Dennster, but you're just wrong.
     
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    I speak for myself. I am not affected or bothered by people coming to live here - not any more than anyone else. You are the one speaking for these people who are supposedly "slapped in the face."

    I don't suggest people who come here without visas become citizens. That is the reward for those who do apply and go through the process. I do say to make them "legal" so they can be subject to our laws, including minimum wage, income tax, federal withholding, and so on.

    Maybe you might read up on why we have laws on immigration. It's not because it's a problem at all.
     
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  5. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    So now you've changed your tune and agree with me. I am glad we came full circle.

    Thank you.
     
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    You agree with me that we should open the borders and let people in and make them legit?

    Awesome. Glad you came around.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Sigh... You don't get it. I never said I didn't want to let people in at all. I said I am against illegal immigration. The keyword being "illegal" something you probably don't give a shit about, which is fine, that is your opinion.

    I am all for keeping the borders open for legal immigration avenues and that should have never been in question.

    Is that easier for you to understand now?
     
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    No victim, no crime. That's why it's not a serious enough crime to waste any effort on. Not only no victims, no harm has been done.

    This is supposed to be a free country. Let it be free.
     
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    An illegal immigrant is a non citizen in this country without a Visa when a Visa is required for citizens of the immigrant's country of citizenship; Immigrants that stay beyond the period of the Visa.
    It is illegal for all non citizen to work for pay in the US without possessing a work visa (green card). While there are many Nations we do not require a visa for a visit of 90 days or less, Mexico
    and most Central American nations are not among the list as they have not complied with the requirement for such status.

    This is current law as passed by the Congress which has the authority as designated in the Constitution. The charters passed by the UN have no bearing on the law of the US.
    A SS number doesn't mean a damn thing about your legal status. Until you want to get paid above the table, or open a bank account or do a transaction with a Bank, you won't need a SS number.
    If you are a visitor and use an ATM, it is a, not on us transaction, passed through to your card bank and you do not need a SS number. The same with card purchases of any kind.

    If you wish to see the country run as Denny wishes, then vote for Hillary. She promised Jorge Ramos(Univision) that she would not stop immigrants coming. Apparently she will not follow the Constitution as in, (s)" he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.." I really can't imagine voting for a person that will not preform the basic job of President as defined in the Constitution.

    I don't see a damn thing racist or evil about this! I have worked in several other nations and all have required at least this much of me, some time more and I don't see a problem with that either.
    I do see big trouble for citizens of this country if we do not maintain order on who is here participating in our work force. Saftey of American, from those that wish to harm Americans is entirely on another scale of threat with open boarders.
     
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    Poor excuse.

    http://www.fairus.org/issue/identity-and-immigration-status-of-9-11-terrorists

    According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly tourist visas with entry permits for six months. Although four of them attended flight school in the United States, only one is known to have entered on an appropriate visa for such study, and one entered on an F-1 student visa. Besides the four pilots, all but one of the terrorists entered the United States only once and had been in the country for only three to five months before the attacks.

    The four pilots had been in the United States for extended periods, although none was a legal permanent resident. Some had received more than one temporary visa, most of which were currently valid on September 11, but at least three of them had fallen out of status and were, therefore, in the United States illegally.
     
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    http://nypost.com/2016/03/12/how-the-15-wage-is-already-killing-seattle-jobs/
     
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