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  1. riverman

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    Do you know how many Bud Lites the locals drink in a day? Even if they liked micro brews, they couldn't afford them...I've lived there 3 times..my son was born there..from the 80s and in the early 90s...only Hawaiians put ice in cheap beer and don't give them bottles..they want cans. My neighbors and friends were mostly locals..the haole's had their Micro Brews and Tri tip steak but any Hawaiian had spam and Bud lite. Kona coffee is a joke too...no oil in the beans at all..no flavor but really high priced.
     
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    I believe you. Times change. My buddy married a girl who's father was born in hawaii. He hung out with locals. He slapped the shit out of me when I asked of he had heard of kona brewing company. Told me lots of college kids and people our age over there love it.
     
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    Social Security (or a similar retirement program) is a necessary component of any successful capitalist economy, and completely unnecessary in any Socialist society.
     
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    Yes. It was fantastic. Groceries for the family for most of the week.... $70.
     
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    I am in wino country. It's rather pleasant.
     
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    Better than yuppie town bro?

    I'm Hella busy for tax season now, but let's put together a draft party or some shit to hang out.
     
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    Hell yeah. I'm game. One month to go, eh? I remember those days. As you wind down the tax season, the weather turns for the better.

    It's nice out here. I dig the small-town vibe.
     
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    My son just went over to visit with his buddy this January...he's 24...said it's pretty much the same around Hilo.
     
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    McMinville used to be one of the spookiest towns in the country. RIP Evergreen.
     
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    Cool. I don't know why you want to argue? There's more than one group in honolulu. And it's not like I'm lying to you. I'm just saying, my friend, who went to university of Hawaii and worked for the city of honolulu said lots of people love kona brewing company.

    That's it. Sooooo yeah?
     
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    Hawaiians can afford to drink anything they want. Especially if they don't work.

    By Malia Zimmerman | Watchdog.org
    HONOLULU — In Hawaii, it pays not to work.
    A new report by Cato Institute, which examines the state-by-state value of welfare for a mother of two,
    said benefits in Hawaii average $49,175 — tops in the nation.
    Michael Tanner, co-author of the Cato study, said that since welfare isn’t taxed, a person would have to earn $60,590 in Hawaii to take home the same $49,175 a person on welfare would.
    “To be clear: There is no evidence that people on welfare are lazy. Indeed, surveys of them consistently show their desire for a job. But they’re also not stupid. If you pay them more not to work than they can earn by working, many will choose not to work,” Tanner said in a summary of his report.


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    Our government’s fiscal crisis offers a rare opportunity to make deep budget cuts while also eliminating harmful social programs. As Rahm Emanuel famously said: “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.”[1] Racial entitlements have wasted billions of dollars. But what’s worse is that they have established powerful bureaucracies devoted to racial separatism, tearing apart our society and even threatening to rip the 50th star off the flag.

    In Hawaii the Grassroot Institute has identified nearly 900 federally funded programs restricted to people who have at least one drop of Hawaiian native blood.[2] The U.S. House Republican Study Committee targeted $40 Million of Hawaiian racial entitlements in 2005 to offset other government spending, and President Bush proposed cutting similar racial entitlements from 2006 to 2008.[3]
    On September 4, 2011 the Maui News reported the latest boondoggle — the National Science Foundation pledged $20 Million for a ten-year program of race-based scholarships to encourage ethnic Hawaiians to learn about astronomy, as a sort of bribe to soften ethnic Hawaiian “sacred land” opposition to building a new solar telescope atop Haleakala.[4]
    Besides all those programs OHA and DHHL have provided about $3 Billion of handouts exclusively to ethnic Hawaiians,[5] and an entire island[6] is pledged to the government envisioned by the Akaka bill. Then there’s Bishop Estate whose trustees fiercely defend Kamehameha Schooll’s racially exclusionary admissions policy not required by Princess Pauahi’s Will.[7]
    All racial entitlement programs should be eliminated. Of course they are unconstitutional,[8] but also immoral and socially divisive. They waste money by duplicating services already available for everyone. Abolishing these programs might contribute only a few billion dollars to the trillions needed to save our nation from bankruptcy, but will also contribute a huge amount of social capital to the rebuilding of Hawaii’s Aloha Spirit.[9]
    Racial entitlements should not only be eliminated from the budget for future expenditures, there should also be rescissions of existing programs to offset emergency spending for hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, and tsunamis.
    Lists of racial entitlement programs are provided in the extended essay, along with a link to a lengthy, detailed analysis of one particular bill in the 112th Congress, S.66 “The Native Hawaiian Health Care Improvement Act.” The purpose of S.66 is to reauthorize an entrenched racial separatist bureaucracy going back more than two decades. Most of the assertions in the bill’s preamble, or “findings”, are very similar to other racial entitlement bills; so the analysis of them has widespread applicability.[10]
    There’s no justification for having racially segregated programs for healthcare, housing, education, and other social services — except to establish empires under the control of racial separatists.

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    http://www.hawaiireporter.com/time-to-eliminate-racial-entitlement-programs

    Special entitlements for the few
    (back to Essentials)
    The idea of special preferences for those of Hawaiian ancestry isn’t new; it started with the best of intentions with the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act in 1921 (“HHCA”) which gave long term leases of homestead lots (at one dollar per year) to “native Hawaiians”, defined as “any descendant of not less than one-half part of the blood of the races inhabiting the Hawaiian Islands previous to 1778.” At the time HHCA was enacted, native Hawaiians, because of their rapidly declining population, were thought to be a “dying race” and the HHCA was seen as a way to enable them to get back on the land and revitalize themselves.
    We refer to this as special entitlements for the “few” because there are now probably fewer than 50,000 people (that is, less than 5% of Hawaii’s population) with half or more Hawaiian blood.
    Official racial discrimination in Hawaii took a giant escalation in 1978, when the state constitution was changed to create the Office of Hawaiian Affairs (“OHA”) and, by implication, to permit special preferences not only for “native Hawaiians,” but also for “Hawaiians” of any degree of Hawaiian ancestry. Subsequently these preferences have been extended not just for the Hawaiian Home Lands program, but for a whole spectrum of state benefits and programs.
    These programs, including the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act and the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and the legislation implementing those acts, are probably invalid under the U.S. constitution because they violate the principle that all citizens, regardless of race or ancestry, are entitled to the equal protection of the laws. Equal Protection and the Special Relationship: The Case of Native Hawaiians, Benjamin, Stuart Minor. For the full text of the article by Mr. Benjamin, see Vol 106 Yale Law Journal, No. 3 Dec 1996 page 537.
    These programs likewise are in conflict with both the Hawaii Bill of Rights (which provides that no person shall be denied the equal protection of the laws because of race or ancestry) and the idea of Aloha.
    The effect of the 1978 creation of OHA and its potentially disastrous economic consequences for the State of Hawaii are just now being realized. They are graphically illustrated by the “ceded lands” case.

    http://aloha4all.org/wordpress/basic-issues/essentials/special-entitlements-for-the-few/
     
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    Yeah. It's gonna be busy for me until the end of april. But it's cool. I like working with tax.

    I'll hit you up when it starts to slow down for me and we can figure it out. Going to Vegas early may to get a vacation, but free after that.
     
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    you have a strange take on what an argument is JFizz.....this is a statement and I can't speak for Honolulu...never lived there at all....my observations are about Hawaiians in Hilo and I'm glad to hear your friends like better beer....but what happens in college towns is not representing what I know about Hawaiians..you don't need to take my word for it.
     
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    What's spooky about it?
     
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    Not sure honolulu is entirely a college town? But ok.
     
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    Yeah I've never heard of that myself.

    Nothing is spookier than towns where @SlyPokerDog reside
     
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    There are colleges on all the islands...I taught at a Japanese college in Hilo. It really doesn't matter though. I have a pretty good take on Hawaii from my own first hand experience. This conversation started from a talk about preference for beer and ended with me being from another generation...it's ok...you should talk with my son about it.
     

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