If you didn't know, the Knicks are seriously considering a buyout of the final three years remaining on Steve francis's contract. The rumor goes on to say that after being bought out, Francis will most likely be signed by the Philadelphia 76ers.it might sound like the Kincks getting rid of another troublesome guard, but it's not as good as it seems. I think that instead of buying him out and getting nothing in return, let him take the rest of the season to rehab in Texas and when he comes back, play him and generate some sort of trade value for him. If the Sixers are willing to sign him, then there is some obvious interest around the league for his services. Somebody besides me has to think that this is a stupid move.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Smitty @ Jan 9 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Source? I'm curious about this.</div>FoxSports.comand Hoopshype has been going on about this in the past week too.
I personally think it's a good and bad move at the same time. It seems, other than Marbury and Francis, they are focused on young talent. I think they could use his money so sign a young FA or to pay a rookie.
I don't think it's a bad move at all. First of all, it's going to take Francis a long time to get back into decent playing shape. Francis is half the player he was 3 years ago. Francis plays the same position as half the damn players on that team, including Marbury. Francis is a selfish player.I don't think this is a bad move at all. The thing that I'm laughing at is Billy King thinking about signing him. :lmao-1: Now THAT would be a stupid move.Source? I need a source to confirm that Philly is actually interested. Or is this just pure speculation by ProStix#6?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 9 2007, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it's a bad move at all. First of all, it's going to take Francis a long time to get back into decent playing shape. Francis is half the player he was 3 years ago. Francis plays the same position as half the damn players on that team, including Marbury. Francis is a selfish player.I don't think this is a bad move at all. The thing that I'm laughing at is Billy King thinking about signing him. :lmao-1: Now THAT would be a stupid move.Source? I need a source to confirm that Philly is actually interested. Or is this just pure speculation by ProStix#6?</div>Found it.CLICK --> Source <-- CLICK
I think it is a good move. Now look at it Francis is in his late 20's and is going to be 32 so he won't have that MUCH value. If we just remove Francis out of the rotation it is still decent:Marbury/NateCrawford/JeffriesQ-Rich/BalkmanFrye/LeeCurry/CatoNate will get alot more minutes along with Crawford.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jan 9 2007, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think it's a bad move at all. First of all, it's going to take Francis a long time to get back into decent playing shape. Francis is half the player he was 3 years ago. Francis plays the same position as half the damn players on that team, including Marbury. Francis is a selfish player.I don't think this is a bad move at all. The thing that I'm laughing at is Billy King thinking about signing him. :lmao-1: Now THAT would be a stupid move.Source? I need a source to confirm that Philly is actually interested. Or is this just pure speculation by ProStix#6?</div>I agree.
Smart move, IMO. Francis is aging, and he isn't the player he used to be. As CB32 said, the funny part is Billy King being stupid enough to want to pay him. In his prime he was a very good player, but he's far from that now.EDIT: Now that I think about it more if they could get him for cheap, which I extremely doubt, it'd be a good move. But whoever gets him is most likely going to have to pay a decent amount.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think this is a bad move at all. The thing that I'm laughing at is Billy King thinking about signing him. :lmao-1: Now THAT would be a stupid move.</div>If they can get him cheap, I don't think that's a bad move really.
The smarter move is just buying out Francis. Lee has been playing amazing and been getting decent minutes while Webber will steal all the playing time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they can get him cheap, I don't think that's a bad move really.</div>Why? Philly is a rebuilding organization that has 3 first round picks lined up this year, along with a nice PG in Miller and two pretty good young wings in Iggy/Carney. Not to mention Green and Korver are already there. Why bring in Francis? He's a broke man's Allen Iverson, except Francis is less of a teammate.Bringing in Francis is not the right move for the Sixers organization right now. They need to start fresh. If you are going to bring in another veteran for leadership, great, but Steve Francis makes as many mistakes as any young player and he is not a leader. Plus, he's going to take a while to get back into decent playing shape. It's just the wrong move.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Smart move, IMO. Francis is aging, and he isn't the player he used to be. As CB32 said, the funny part is Billy King being stupid enough to want to pay him. In his prime he was a very good player, but he's far from that now.EDIT: Now that I think about it more if they could get him for cheap, which I extremely doubt, it'd be a good move. But whoever gets him is most likely going to have to pay a decent amount.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they can get him cheap, I don't think that's a bad move really.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jan 9 2007, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The smarter move is just buying out Francis. Lee has been playing amazing and been getting decent minutes while Webber will steal all the playing time.</div>look guys, if anybody is willing to sign him, then there may be somebody that may wany to trade for him. his main problem is his injury that is obviously nagging him alot. If the Knicks want to get anything in return, they should hold on to him and do their best to try and create a market for him. buying him out will give another team a pretty decent player withouth getting anything in return. that is stupid for the knicks. They need to have a mindset that everybody that is on the payroll should be playing on their team, not the 76ers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why? Philly is a rebuilding organization that has 3 first round picks lined up this year, along with a nice PG in Miller and two pretty good young wings in Iggy/Carney. Not to mention Green and Korver are already there. Why bring in Francis? He's a broke man's Allen Iverson, except Francis is less of a teammate.Bringing in Francis is not the right move for the Sixers organization right now. They need to start fresh. If you are going to bring in another veteran for leadership, great, but Steve Francis makes as many mistakes as any young player and he is not a leader. Plus, he's going to take a while to get back into decent playing shape. It's just the wrong move.</div>I get what your saying but to pick up a player like Francis for a bargain price, can't be deemed bad. If the Sixers were to pickup Francis for cheap, I think that would be the perfect time for them to buyout Webber and seek a Miller trade. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>look guys, if anybody is willing to sign him, then there may be somebody that may wany to trade for him.</div>Um their willing to sign him because if he's bought out, he will be cheaper then his contract right now. Why trade for a guy who can be had cheaper at a later period? The Knicks are better off buying him out because a chance of a deal with him is slim and will rid them of deadweight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 9 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I get what your saying but to pick up a player like Francis for a bargain price, can't be deemed bad. If the Sixers were to pickup Francis for cheap, I think that would be the perfect time for them to buyout Webber and seek a Miller trade.</div>Get Francis and get rid of Andre Miller? So, let me get this straight: trade a poor man's Iverson who is a ball stopper (which means that he needs to create off the dribble in order to do anything), injured, and has attitude problems.. and get rid of one of the best playmakers in the league that runs an offense well. Is that correct?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Get Francis and get rid of Andre Miller? So, let me get this straight: trade a poor man's Iverson who is a ball stopper (which means that he needs to create off the dribble in order to do anything), injured, and has attitude problems.. and get rid of one of the best playmakers in the league that runs an offense well. Is that correct?</div>Yes, this only makes the Sixers more worse. Which I think is the most logical step for them right now. Ridding of Miller's contract, taking on Francis for probably the vet min this year. Saves towards cap after this season. I think it's a good plan for the Sixers, then keeping Miller who helps the team.
the Knicks really need a franchise player, eithier that or they start from scratch with a lottery pick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 9 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Um their willing to sign him because if he's bought out, he will be cheaper then his contract right now. Why trade for a guy who can be had cheaper at a later period? The Knicks are better off buying him out because a chance of a deal with him is slim and will rid them of deadweight.</div>There is still an opprotunity for him to moved, because he still is a good player and if you noticed, the issues about his attitude and playing style started to come about when the teams he was on started to lose in large volumes. I believe that when in Orlando, Steve got the idea that the only way for the Magic to win was for him to totally control the Orlando offense and not have anything run by anyone else on the team. And if you look at the roster back then, you cannot completely blame him. besides Grant Hill averaging nearly 20 a game, he had a young Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson, DeShawn Stevenson who is more defense-oriented, and Hedo Turkoglu who at the time was still adjusting to becoming a regular starter in the league. Do I completely blame him for his approach in Orlando? Not 100% you could say.I'm not a big Steve Francis fan, but the Knicks still have a player that some teams would want. It is highly unlikely that he will be moved this season because of all the money on his contract, but next year when he healthy, I believe the Knics will get some calls concerning him.
As a Knick fan I like this move. Francis is a great talent, but he seems to be hobbleld by these nagging injuries lately...and even before this knee thing, he didn't have that extra "pop" in his step when he took the ball to the rack...no explosiveness it seemed...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Jan 9 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As a Knick fan I like this move. Francis is a great talent, but he seems to be hobbleld by these nagging injuries lately...and even before this knee thing, he didn't have that extra "pop" in his step when he took the ball to the rack...no explosiveness it seemed...</div>So go ahead and have Jalen Rose, Allan Houston, and Steve Francis on the NYK payroll despite the fact that they don't wear a New York jersey anymore (that's retarded you know that?)
