Here's reality: If we don't get this years pick, we have next years pick. Please write that down and re-type it with this quote, so I know you read it. You may not write anything else to anyone else until you do.
No im not and im 29 years old.. Yes we can take next years pick but some teams want an asset now rather than later. I just want to enhance our chances of improving this summer with an asset that can be used now for somebody
The 12th seed in the NBA lottery has a 93.5% chance of picking at the 12th spot. It has a greater chance of being bumped down to the 13th pick than it does of getting one of the top 3 picks. If, by some miracle, the lottery balls fell in the Blazers' favor and they were able to draft Ingram, he wouldn't be ready to contribute much for a couple of years. Is he significantly better than Wiggins? Wiggins is the guy the draft-niks were creaming their jeans over a couple of years ago. Two years in, he's not contributing as much to the T-Wolves as CJ is to the Blazers. And the T-Wolves still are a lottery team despite having picked up Townes in last year's draft. Thinking that there's any chance that getting into the late lottery in this year's draft is going to lead the Blazers to competitiveness any time soon is a pipe dream.
So you want to take a risk to help ANOTHER TEAM OUT TO GET OUR ASSET???? WHAT TEAM ARE YOU REALLY A FAN OF?? Sounds like a Houston troll to me.... Yes its a risk to tank and go for the asset. A huge risk. A star player wants to play on a team that wants to win.. not tank....so the risk is huge in pushing FA's away from us.. Our summer will be improved and we don't need the asset to do it. The asset will help us CONTINUE to improve the year after.... You want to give up our asset now before we know clearly what our biggest need is because the players haven't leveled off yet. Thats a HUGE risk in its own.. so we use the asset to get someone in the same position as VOnleh.. and then Vonleh doesnt get the minutes next year to potentially break out... so we are in the same boat as now... Your thought literally makes no sense....and is extremely frustrating that you wont listen to anyone else.... You really need to take the blinders off, and listen, take a moment.. and think about what everyone has been telling you... Do you REALLY think that your the ONLY one who is right about all of this? That's a pretty pompous stance to take, and will assuredly end up biting you in the ass, but keep it up and time will show all.
LOGIC. Good god, it's not that difficult. There's one thing to be stubborn, there's another to be oblivious.
Even if you tell us "you told us so", you're still wrong, since we have the pick next year anyway. We literally have nothing to lose. It's really not that hard to see. You're wrong. Even if we get blown out, you're wrong. Even if.... Well, you're wrong, period.
And realize, this is coming from someone who wanted the pick for about half the year. It's okay to change your stance on it. I saw logic and reasoning, I believe you can too.
ill be back this evening. I need a break. i'm letting Tunchi get to me more than I should...Just hard to listen to people that call themselves fans, but are so illogical, they cant seem to grasp the FACTS of the situation. Facts are, we have over exceeded expectations this year... bring this opinion....we shouldn't lose now.... Facts are we have played very well against top tier teams and very poorly against top tier teams...brings this opinion.... we can compete, but need to learn how to be steady... through experience... Facts are we are an extremely young team in our first year together.... opinion... this group still has alot of upside left because of this.... Facts are we have a pick this year OR next year.... opinion.... why spend all our money now when we arent for sure of what we have? That last one is kind of like.. okay, I get paid once a week.. I dont need to monitor my money, It keeps coming in. Get paid once a month and you need to spread the money out and not spend all at once. The Blazers get paid once a month in this scenario.. Either this year or next year... why go blow your whole wad now? Stash it away, let it gain interest and use it to purchase something truly of need... not just go spend because you CAN..... Tunchi, I dont expect you to get this, but Ill check back this evening to see if it made any sense to you, but for now, your a little too under my skin....
You know what? Fine lets make the playoffs, im sold. you guys sold me. Lets make the playoffs.. Hopefully we can go far
I just want to point out that we picked 23rd last year and we were able to parlay that pick into Mason Plumlee, who has been a solid contributor to this team. The assumption that possessing the pick will automatically mean that it's going to end up being some pimply teenager is a false one.
hmmm not compared to some here.... http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/do-we-have-the-worst-starting-pf-c-combo-in-the-league.297677/ Listen, no one is saying we cant use the pick to get a veteran player or part of a package, but the pick next year can be used as the same asset this year, so whats the difference? Plus, the talk is if we actually draft a player... yes he will be a pimply faced kid that wont be able to contribute next year any more than most of our new guys are this year....
I actually think he was serious. Maybe the last part is a bit much (not many, if any, think we'll go far), but I believed him.
It's the worst PF/C combo because the two don't mesh well. Plums is a solid starting center, and he'd be fine next to a scoring four. He's just not a guy that you can count on to score, and when paired with a power forward that's similarly limited, it hampers what our offense is capable of accomplishing. The pick next year will most likely be even lower, so the difference would be value. A lottery pick is worth more than a mid-to-late first rounder. Looking back over the past few drafts, if we had the 14th pick in the 2013 draft, we could have taken Giannis Antetokounmpo (15th pick). We could have taken Dennis Schroder (17th). Rudy Gobert was available (27th). In 2011 Kawhi Leonard was taken 15th and Nikola Vucevic was taken 16th. There are some good players that could be had in that 13-15 range, if you have a good scouting department.
Instead of repeatedly trashing my thread, perhaps @Orion Bailey should actually read the question and try to list the worst PF/C combos in the league. We're way down on the list no matter how you try to slice it. Plums is obviously a stopgap. He's a bench player on a contending team, unless he's surrounded by all stars.
This thread is kind of proof that homers are just as bad as haters. Meet somewhere in the middle guys. It's ok. The arrogance from both sides is almost unbearable
