<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 11 2007, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Trade Melo for Garnett. Garnett will give you defense and rebounding help along with scoring. Minnesota I'm assuming wants to get younger since they no longer are a championship contender. Also after watching some of the stupid things Nene does having him out of the game should be an advantage.</div>Please tell me your embarrassed for saying that... We would never trade away our franchise player who is going to end up being better than Kevin Garnett anyway. Carmelo is 10 years younger than Garnett and he might already be the better player.Use your head, Please.
Lmao at your comment on Melo being better than Garnett. Just look at how much better Denver will be rebounding wise along with defense. That's been a problem for Denver this year. Melo isn't going to fix those problems. He is a scorer and on a team full of scorers you need role players. There isn't one better out there than Garnett imo except Duncan but he isn't available for obvious reasons. By the time Melo reaches his prime the rest of the team will be old.
Didn't watch the game, but I hate it when people say the Iverson experiment is a failure because of the way Denver is playing right now, well in reality it hasn't even begun yet. We'll see what the team will look like after the next 10-12 games (4 more until 'Melo is back, I believe, and then another 5-8 games until they are accustomed to playing together... maybe sooner since Carmelo and JR are still allowed to practice during the suspensions).The team looks like it could make a playoff push if they get a favorable first-round match-up, but I don't see them going pass the second-round (if even that) simply because there are stronger teams out West... but a lot can change from now until then, so we will see.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Lmao at your comment on Melo being better than Garnett. Just look at how much better Denver will be rebounding wise along with defense. That's been a problem for Denver this year. Melo isn't going to fix those problems. He is a scorer and on a team full of scorers you need role players. There isn't one better out there than Garnett imo except Duncan but he isn't available for obvious reasons</div>Haha, Mavsfan you are one funny man. How can you say rebounding has been a huge problem for us? Dude, we are the 2nd best rebounding team in the entire league. Where do you get your logic from?I said Carmelo MIGHT already be better than Kevin Garnett, that's up for debate. Our rebounding is fine we need scoring at the moment. You're not looking towards the future in Denver at all. If Carmelo Anthony is not better than Garnett now he will be in 2-3 years, He's only 22 years old and already putting up 30+ per game. You don't trade away a talent like Carmelo Anthony for a guy who has 10 years on him. Any General Manager with even the slightest bit of basketball knowledge would agree with me.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>By the time Melo reaches his prime the rest of the team will be old.</div>Yeah, considering we will have this exact same roster when Carmelo turns 30
Well I say Denver has a 2 year period where they can win a championship. AI is in his prime. I would go all or nothing similar to what Miami did to get Shaq. Odom is much younger but Miami needed to win a championship now rather than staying young. Well if Denver is already a great rebounding team can you imagine how good they would be with Garnett? Garnett also plays solid defense unlike a certain Marshmelo. lol Both are good shooters so I doubt you will lose offense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well I say Denver has a 2 year period where they can win a championship. AI is in his prime. I would all or nothing similar to what Miami did to get Shaq. Odom is much younger but Miami needed to win a championship now rather than staying young. Well if Denver is already a great rebounding team can you imagine how good they would be with Garnett? Garnett also plays solid solid defense unlike a certain Marshmelo. lol</div>Did the Miami Heat trade Dwyane Wade when the Lakers asked for him though? No they didn't because Wade is young and he's their franchise player much like Carmelo Anthony is. Lamar Odom is not a franchise player and he's not going to bring you a championship during his prime years in the NBA. The comparison makes zero sense...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well if Denver is already a great rebounding team can you imagine how good they would be with Garnett? Garnett also plays solid solid defense unlike a certain Marshmelo. lol</div>You don't get it, we are already great at rebounding the ball. Trading away Carmelo Anthony is not worth a few extra stats in an area that we already excel in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 11 2007, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I say Denver has a 2 year period where they can win a championship. AI is in his prime. I would go all or nothing similar to what Miami did to get Shaq. Odom is much younger but Miami needed to win a championship now rather than staying young. Well if Denver is already a great rebounding team can you imagine how good they would be with Garnett? Garnett also plays solid defense unlike a certain Marshmelo. lol Both are good shooters so I doubt you will lose offense.</div>But Miami kept both Shaq and Wade, and brought in better players to surround them with, which is a far different concept from what you're comparing it to (keep AI, trade Carmelo), especially considering we haven't even seen the two play a single game together. Either way, I wouldn't trade Carmelo for KG anyway, because they Nuggets would be in a worse situation than they are now.Iverson's prime may end in two to three years, but being with a great scorer like Carmelo will only help extend his career because he doesn't have to carry the offensive load every single night, and when he starts to lose his speed, and his offensive contribution starts to decline he can step back and become more of a playmaker, especially if Denver goes out and gets a little more scoring help and if JR Smith continues to develop and improve his shooting.
5.6 rebounds to 12 rebounds not including a big improvements in Denver's weakest area. Defence. Also putting Nene on the bench where he should be. I just don't see Carmelo taking Denver to a championship but I think it's a possibility with Garnett there. Big men tend to last longer so I think Garnett has a few more years of being great.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>5.6 rebounds to 12 rebounds not including a big improvements in Denver's weakest area. Defence. Also putting Nene on the bench where he should be. I just don't see Carmelo taking Denver to a championship but I think it's a possibility with Garnett there. Big men tend to last longer so I think Garnett has a few more years of being great.</div>Dude, what are you talking about... putting Nene on the bench where he belongs? HE DOESN'T START. He has been on the bench all season.Yes, our biggest problem is our defense but Kevin Garnett isn't going to be a big help improving that aspect of our team. Interior defense isn't our problem it's all on the perimeter. Eduardo Najera, Marcus Camby, Nene, and Reggie Evans are all pretty good interior defenders. It's the guys on the perimeter who give up most of the points. Think about things before you post.
Yeah those perimeter guys like Melo. lol Garnett can come out on defense as well. Whatever man you are just too much of a homer to realize what Melo's weaknesses are hurting Denver. Enjoy your mediocre Nuggets.
I realize Carmelo Anthony isn't a good defender, I never once said that he wasn't. You don't understand anything I posted, all of which in my opinion made complete sense.I'm done with this topic, your reasoning is ridiculous.
Ok defense and rebounding is ridiculous. Maybe Garnett will not be the savior to Denver's defense but he will definitely help. Najera and Nene aren't good defenders imo. The point is you need to find a way to improve the defense. Carmelo is by far your best trading tool for getting that.
I never once said that defense and rebounding were ridiculous, I said that YOUR reasoning was ridiculous. Guys, please look over this thread and back me up here. He doesn't understand it.
Yeah I understand it. You are overhyping what Melo does for the team. Underrating what a superstar Garnett is. Yeah a 10 year difference in age is a lot but Denver will have to start over from scratch in a few years because everyone is getting old at the same time. I just don't think the chemistry is right between Melo and AI. Maybe AI is impossible to build around because of how much he has the ball in his hand that other players are watching too much and not getting involved.
No you didn't win, I could easily tear apart your last post as well. I just don't want to respond to your stupidity anymore.Yes, I know I said I wouldn't respond...
If Mark Warkentein pulls that trigger and trade Melo for KG, he better hide in his Pepsi Center office forever, order takeaways until the Nuggets move out of the city because every Nugget fan who lives in Colorado is buying a sniper and is gonna gun him down for doing that. Melo is not a better player than KG... but he has a chance to be. Right now, however you can say Melo's value to the Nuggets is as big as KG's to the Wolves. Look at our record with (playoffs) and without Melo (4-16 in his Nugget career). Secondly, like BALLA said, Melo has 12-14 years in him as opposed to KG's 3-4 years and done. Why do you think the Wolves are looking for a package of expiring contracts, picks, and a talented young player? Why do you think they turned down Billy King's offer of basically... "we'll give you AI if you give us Foye." And Randy Foye doesn't compare jack to AI... at least so far. Because that's how valuable a great young player is... that they have at least 10-13 years to build around. Trade for KG, basically give up Melo's 30 ppg + 50+FG% for KG's 20, 10 and 4? Suppose it even works, the window of opportunity is about 3-4 years before KG gets too old and retires... while Melo would probably be averaging 32ppg, carrying the Wolves deep into the playoffs with his new sidekick Randy Foye. And by the 3rd/ 4th year of KG's Nugget tenure, he'd probably be averaging 16-17 ppg, 7-8 rpg, 45%FG by then I'd probably save enough money myself to get a return plane ticket Melbourne-Denver and buy dozens of rotten eggs and throw them into Mark's car and house. But he's not an idiot, that's why he gets the GM position in the first place.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 11 2007, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just don't think the chemistry is right between Melo and AI.</div>And I will never understand how can you sum up that sentence when the two haven't even played a single game together. I guess every struggling team with stars should give up its most valuable, young player and be in the contention right away. Trade Chris Bosh for KG :happy0144: Don't forget the NBA is not only about Ws, it's about filling the seats and merchandises. After Philly's trip to the Finals in 2001, the Sixers have been a .500 team why didn't they trade him earlier? Because he <u>sells</u>... Melo does that too although not to an AI magnitude. Without Melo, Denver wouldn't be babyblue and gold... they'd be back dark brown and miserable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 11 2007, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I understand it. You are overhyping what Melo does for the team. Underrating what a superstar Garnett is. Yeah a 10 year difference in age is a lot but Denver will have to start over from scratch in a few years because everyone is getting old at the same time. I just don't think the chemistry is right between Melo and AI. Maybe AI is impossible to build around because of how much he has the ball in his hand that other players are watching too much and not getting involved.</div>OMG first Melo trade for KG? You kidding right Melo will be great he is already. KG is great, but he is getting old. AI is not impossible to build around why do you say that? In Philly the gm just never put enough talent around him. And how you going to say stuff about AI+Melo when you have yet to be able to see them play with each other?They will be fine people should have reasons why they don't think it be fine. They will be playing the Suns up tempo offense. AI, Melo, JR, ect.............Will all get there shots still. If AI can average 33 PPG last season, Webber averaged 20 still, and Korver, and Iggy still got like 13 a game playing slow with less shots availble why would Melo, AI, and company not be able to get the same shots even more playing the up tempo offense they will be playing?
