When you got the 2 biggest ball hogs in the nba than yeah I don't think the chemistry is right. Sure AI doesn't have the talent around him but he didn't make the most out of whatever he had either. The ball movement suffers too much when AI goes 1 on 1 and players don't get the touches they normally would get. I feel that AI and Carmelo will be too much isolation offense and that style doesn't lead to success. Both have high turnover ratios as well which will hurt their running game. The defense will also be bad similar to Philadelphia. I think you will miss Andre Miller's passing skills as he was very underrated.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 11 2007, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When you got the 2 biggest ball hogs in the nba than yeah I don't think the chemistry is right. Sure AI doesn't have the talent around him but he didn't make the most out of whatever he had either. The ball movement suffers too much when AI goes 1 on 1 and players don't get the touches they normally would get. I feel that AI and Carmelo will be too much isolation offense and that style doesn't lead to success. Both have high turnover ratios as well which will hurt their running game. The defense will also be bad similar to Philadelphia. I think you will miss Andre Miller's passing skills as he was very underrated.</div>Melo is not a ball hog at all. And AI passes when he has people to pass to. Did you not watch team USA, or the all star teams? AI turnovers will go down when he won't get doubled/tripled team, and have guys not catching the balls and they actually finish plays.D is the only thing I agree with you on.Andre passing skills are good, but not underrated he get's respect for that. Iverson passing skills are underrated though.I am done arguing with people who don't see the light. I told you have you seen when AI was playing on team USA, and the all star teams? If so you should know he can pass, and is not a ball hog.
Oh by the way TEAM USA LOST. Once with AI taking outside shots to when Carmelo felt he needed to take over on offense. They both take some ridiculous shots that they occasionally make. They won't be close to as good as the suns on offense and they will be one of the worst defenses. Rebounding is the only thing going for them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 12 2007, 04:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh by the way TEAM USA LOST. Once with AI taking outside shots to when Carmelo felt he needed to take over on offense. They both take some ridiculous shots that they occasionally make. They won't be close to as good as the suns on offense and they will be one of the worst defenses. Rebounding is the only thing going for them.</div>WOW and how again did you become a moderator on here? Deff could not be by having any real knowledge about Iversons game. What does team USA losing have to do with how AI played? It's a 5 On 5 game remember. It's not just up to one guy. AI passed, and was great on team USA. He helped out the young Melo when he got mad at Larry Brown. AI took Melo a side told him it's okay just listen even if you don't agree or some stuff of that sort. My point is AI was a great leader of team USA it was far from his fault that team USA did not win.You can not cover AI, and Melo no way you can cover both of them. You can't triple team them at all. And if you double team JR will knock it down, or Camby will knock it down. And other guys once in a blue moon cause the rest suck pretty much. lolRebounding that you say is going for us would get us extra shots, and with Melo/AI teams can't give us extra shots. Suns got Nash, Amare, Marion as the top 3. Our is AI, Melo, and JR. There 3 is better, but our 2 is better. I say we will be a contender. But I did say in other threads I don't think we can beat Dallas, Spurs, and the Suns. Not like I am saying we are better then those 3. I said we are a contender, and that is true. Except those 3 teams I think were better then any other team in the league once the guys gel.
That's been the excuse for AI his whole career. The players around him aren't right. Maybe he just doesn't have the IQ to get others involved on consistent basis. Scoring titles do not take you far. Maybe it's AI's basketball IQ that keeps him from winning as he overpasses at times and than takes horrible shots. The reason AI gets as many assist as he does is because he always has the ball. I'll take the suns big 2 over the nuggets big 2 anytime. As the suns big 2 compliment each other better than the nuggets big 2. I'll also take the Rockets big 2 once Yao gets healthy. You need to learn that scoring is not all there is to basketball. It's what you do in other categories in the game and both AI and Melo are weak at. (Defense, rebounding, and passing)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's been the excuse for AI his whole career. The players around him aren't right. Maybe he just doesn't have the IQ to get others involved on consistent basis. Scoring titles do not take you far. Maybe it's AI's basketball IQ that keeps him from winning as he overpasses at times and than takes horrible shots. The reason AI gets as many assist as he does is because he always has the ball. I'll take the suns big 2 over the nuggets big 2 anytime. As the suns big 2 compliment each other better than the nuggets big 2. I'll also take the Rockets big 2 once Yao gets healthy. You need to learn that scoring is not all there is to basketball. It's what you do in other categories in the game and both AI and Melo are weak at. (Defense, rebounding, and passing)</div>What is a excuse exactly? And it's true he never had enough around him. Webber was the only one. But he was to old, and on one leg by the time he came to the Sixers. And on Denver all he had was Camby for 3 games othere then that the starters of then bench was worse then the Sixers bench. LOLAnd he shown he can man again have you not watch team USA, or the all star games? Because like I said if you had you would know get's his teammates involved if they are good. He overpasses at times? You mean when guys don't catch the ball? That is the guys not catching the ball mostly, or not finishing. Does AI make bad passes sometimes? Yes everyone does sometimes. But when guys around him finish he passes. Also if AI get's the assists cause of how much he has the ball why does Kobe who has the ball more last seson did not get the assists AI did? Averaging 7.4 assists is not just by accident dude. AI may not be good at D, but he plays the lanes good I give him that. Melo I think is actually aight on D. Melo rebounds he is a SF he not a center or PF to need to get 10 rebounds a game. And Melo 4 assists per game as SF is not bad. AI can pass you need to wake up I am tired of explaining this to you. I see people tryed to tell you yet you are to dumb to see that, or just a Iverson hater.
Well as a point guard you have the ball almost all the time. Kobe doesn't always have the ball. AI gets the ball more since he is a point guard. Saying Melo is decent on defense is a far stretch. AI's idea of getting a stop on defense is gambling for a steal which more times than not fail. I'm not going to talk about this topic until seeing them for a couple months. I'll eat crow if they start succeeding together.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 12 2007, 05:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well as a point guard you have the ball almost all the time. Kobe doesn't always have the ball. AI gets the ball more since he is a point guard. Saying Melo is decent on defense is a far stretch. AI's idea of getting a stop on defense is gambling for a steal which more times than not fail. I'm not going to talk about this topic until seeing them for a couple months. I'll eat crow if they start succeeding together.</div>Kobe had the ball as much as AI last season for sure. Far stretch that Melo is a decent D guy? You kidding right he is deff decent. And that is why AI is one of the best in history with steals. And looks like you be eating crow then. LOLBut why you start saying stuff then to begin with? Before you watched them play together?
Because I have a hunch it's not going to work. It's hard to explain why the chemistry won't work. Sorry if I offended you AI and Melo fans.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Jan 12 2007, 06:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because I have a hunch it's not going to work. It's hard to explain why the chemistry won't work. Sorry if I offended you AI and Melo fans.</div>Well you got no proov for now so wait, and see first atleast.You AI, and Melo fans? LOL I like both AI of course my fav ever always will be, and Melo is on my top 10 fav list for sure even top 5 probably. But I was not just saying that I really think they will work.
